OwenM
Thru Hiker
I've been looking at these bags lately, could I ask how much room is there around your legs? I'm quite a restless sleeper and really hate the feeling of being tied up you get with very narrow bags.
I've been looking at these bags lately, could I ask how much room is there around your legs? I'm quite a restless sleeper and really hate the feeling of being tied up you get with very narrow bags.
I've been looking at these bags lately, could I ask how much room is there around your legs? I'm quite a restless sleeper and really hate the feeling of being tied up you get with very narrow bags.
If i gather in all the extra fabric it's fairly warm, but after 10 mins asleep that gathered fabric opens out again and all that extra width just lets all the warmth out.
The Minim 350 is rated at -2c but i still get cold at 5c exactly the same as the minimus.
Sleeping bags tend to be form fitting for a reason, any unused space is just going to get cold.
A wide bag sounds great in theory, in practice you'll have to gather in the extra material or go for a warmer bag than you think you need.
I've never contacted Phd, but I know of people who have and Phd has always refused to reveal its fill weights. It's one of the things that has put me off buying from them, considering the prices they charge.And I was going to write to Phd about numbers (actual measurements and down fill weights to allow comparison) but what I read here makes wonder?
Sleeping bags tend to be form fitting for a reason, any unused space is just going to get cold.
A wide bag sounds great in theory, in practice you'll have to gather in the extra material or go for a warmer bag than you think you need.
I'm well aware of why they make sleeping bags the way they do, but there is a fine balance between eliminating dead space and making you feel like a trusted up maggot. There was a fashion a few years ago for "tulip shaped bags" truely awful things your legs were so tightly held together you ended up with very sweaty, clammy inner thighs which lead to rashes developing there. The bag I've been using for quite a few years is a simple tapered shape, enough room to move and bend your legs independently of each other without being baggy. Unfortunately it's coming to the end of it's life and they are no longer made.
Cumulus Panyam 450 -7C 835g €259
Cumulus Panyam 600 -13C(ambitious..) 1000g €299
You'll struggle to beat these for combination of value and quality. You could look at Alpkits Pipedream range or if moneys no object Western Mountaineering (e.g Ultralite)
I've been out in -17C in Scotland; remember being out in the Lakes many years ago it was -23C..... Ample for the UK conditions. Cheaper and easier to just layer with a fleece or puffy if you get any lower temps in the uk
For camping in really cold places I had a bag made up for by a British company called snowgoose (nothing to do with the Seattle based company). Really good when it's well below freezing but too much for UK winters. Weighs 1500g though.
I'm very happy to take the 1500g of the WM Lynx at this time of year. Super snug. Compromising sleeping warmth is a fools game in my experience.
Maybe he means 3 season conditions?I've been out in -17C in Scotland; remember being out in the Lakes many years ago it was -23C.
Rather pricey I expect , but what price is comfort worth sacrificing for if it can be afforded, what temp range is it designed for, sounds like an interesting bespoke bag.
Yep. I've been that fool. (Even last winter) The older I get the longer the season for the warmer bag too.
Maybe he means 3 season conditions?
My philosophy is to take a SB that will give a comfortable night's sleep at the anticipated temp; the fleece, down jacket, etc. caters for the 'anomaly'.Yep, -23c is the anomaly not the average. Obviously take a better bag if you're expecting that kind of drop