Walking poles

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
I tried my poor mans karrimor carbons in Snowdonia this April.

Had used them for several Dartmoor/Exmoor trips. Inc holding up El's Notch.

Coming off Moel Siabod summit in the rain, I slipped a little; the pole tip was between 2 rocks and the centre section snapped like a twig under the strain.

My BD trails would have held no problem.
I'm sure not all carbon poles are the same.
I don't know if they still are, but Karrimor carbon poles used to be carbon fibre and fibreglass. I don't know how that would affect the strength.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Oh I dunno William. Probably.They weren't very strong. No Criss cross fibres like some carbon stuff I've seen.

Pity cos they felt great in use, very light and the flicklocks were nice too. Knurled metal nuts rather than plastic or screws like some I've seen.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Ah.
I don't think I'll be buying again.
I replaced the section with an Ali one from some old lekis. 20 g more...

Well both my sets of BD trails cost < £30 and they are very solid, so probably not in the market for poles for the foreseeable.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I bent one of mine quite well in a fall 2 years ago. Bent it back. Been fine (slight curve, but collapses still) ever since. Quality alloy I guess.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
People vary in weight, build and clumsiness. If you're to the 'fuller' end on that spectrum then I'd steer clear of carbon (for the reasons others have stated) and stick to aluminium alloy in the 18/16/14 mm combo diameter tubing (not the 16/14/12). I've just used my new Lexi Sherpa XL antishocks for the first time and I'm pleased. I got them to replace my old Leki Makalus, which have served well for 7 years but the twist locks are now terminally b*****red. Flick locks are certainly more user friendly, and they've made my mid (Hexpeak) easier to adjust, but only time will tell when it comes to reliability/durability.
 

Shewie

Chief Slackpacker
Staff member
I prefer my Komperdell C3 carbons for general use, but also have a pair of longer BD Trail Pro's which I use for A-frame setup in my Solomid.
 

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
I prefer my Komperdell C3 carbons for general use, but also have a pair of longer BD Trail Pro's which I use for A-frame setup in my Solomid.
+1 to the C3 carbons. I've found them to me very strong. They've been through several versions; the ones I have have aluminium lower sections, which suits the rocky terrain we usually hike in.
 

Teepee

Thru Hiker
I used Leki Makalu's very happily for years with AS. Carbon and Titanium Leki's didn't have any where near enough 'guts' and failed quickly.

I parted company with the aging Leki's after having them pinched 2 years or so ago and went with BD Trails. Good poles but annoyingly bouncy with a grip that doesn't endear.

Now back with Leki Sherpas. Much prefer them to the BD poles; the grip and handle is a much better shape, tips much stronger, straps are comfier and quicker drying. The flicklocks aren't great, but haven't slipped and work fine.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
One pair were ( ergo Ultralight)
The other thicker I think (standard - for the day - Makalus).​
 

Teepee

Thru Hiker
That is a little strange Mole, I could put all my weight on the old Makalus when vaulting and the new Sherpas feel about as stiff. BD's have always felt less secure for me.

Thinking about it, the feel is going to be affected not just by the inherent stiffness of the tubing and grip shape, but the also the tolerances on the union. With flicklocks, there is more noticable play between the tubes. The BD's felt fine at maximium extension, the Sherpa's like an extra 5cm overlap.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I'm guessing the Sherpas a more solid build than standard Makalus? My lekis were both pre 2008 if that's relevant, and often slipped unless really tightened up. ( And often seized without maintenance to the threads and collets). The BDs rarely slipped if the fls adjusted up properly.

If I remember correctly, Ed always reckoned his lekis to be more "sproingy" than BDs too.

Also, I don't really grip my pole handles much - the straps take most of my weight the majority of the time - or hands on the top of the ends if very steep.

I really don't know how folks hold onto their grips all day long. I'm primarily a manual worker and have RSIs from gripping tools for 25 years.
 
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Teepee

Thru Hiker
Same as, pre 2008.

Sounds like I grip the poles more than you bud, I use the straps less and less as the years go on. I reckon it's about 50/50 on average.
 

jj1

Summit Camper
I tried my poor mans karrimor carbons in Snowdonia this April.

Had used them for several Dartmoor/Exmoor trips. Inc holding up El's Notch.

Coming off Moel Siabod summit in the rain, I slipped a little; the pole tip was between 2 rocks and the centre section snapped like a twig under the strain.

My BD trails would have held no problem.
I'm sure not all carbon poles are the same.

My poor man's three-section karrimor carbon poles both separated where the top third of the pole joins the other sections while crossing bogs. I stuck them together with zinc oxide tape, which held them in place for the next 12 days. Only problem then was I'd worn the tips right down
 
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