£100 for a 100g saving on quilt?

Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by Autumn Flower, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. Autumn Flower

    Autumn Flower Trail Blazer

    So my order with UK Hammock was rudely refunded with no apology after they messed me around, not answered questions and did not deliver as multiple times 'promised'

    BUT I am very lucky as have someone coming from USA to bring an enlightened Equipment Quilt (hooorayyyyyyy SOOOO exited)

    So the question I am posing to myself is that Hammock Gear (also US and heard VERY good things about them ) sell an economy quilt

    roughly £150 for 800g

    OR EE
    roughly £230 for 700g

    OR Pushing the boat out for the 950 fill

    roughly £315 for 600g

    THE DECISION IS SOOO HARD!!

    I do a lot of hiking with my gear and hate suffering (and yess sometimes it feels like torture : ( ... it has to be easy and funnn! I want to do the Mt Everest base camp Trek carrying my own equipment so surely even 200g weight saving is Massive... but is it worth the £200 (which I DO have in my bank account but find difficult to justify)

    Any thoughts or whAt you lot would do / decide ??
  2. Bopdude

    Bopdude Section Hiker

    Early days for me but rule of thumb, buy the best you can afford, if you have it spare :)
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  3. Autumn Flower

    Autumn Flower Trail Blazer

    Ooohhhhhh.... how easily influenced I am I AM Buying it!! ... thank you for putting it so sensibly and nicely

    *quickly goes and buys before she changes her mind* haha
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  4. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    I suppose you have compared the HG Burrow Econ with the EE Revelation. Weight and down quality aside, you have to be aware that the sizing is very different: in order to get the same size as a Regular/Regular EE quilt, you'd have to order a Long/Wide one from HG which pushes the price much closer. Between the two, I'd go for EE.
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  5. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    Another black mark on UK Hammocks copybook! About time they decide what their priorities are.
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  6. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    But the best you can afford... buy once, cry once.
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  7. Jamess

    Jamess Section Hiker

    I'd think a bit differently.

    Think in terms of layers.

    A super warm quilt will gather dust most of the year.

    If I were you I would
    - get a pair of down trousers.
    - get Scotty at bespoke ultralight to make you an apex 133 over quilt. The synthetic top quilt will reduce condensation issues from using an outer down layer for several days in serious sub zero conditions.



    With your EE quilt you will have a flexible setup that you can use in all seasons.
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  8. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    It's rarely the expensive stuff I regret buying.
    And expensive stuff holds its resale value.
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  9. Jamess

    Jamess Section Hiker

    Agreed, but expensive stuff you rarely use isn't such a good investment.
  10. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    buys you bragging rights tho' :p
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  11. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    if you're serious about your walking (and i assume by Everest basecamp you are) then i would definitely go for the EE. You'll only regret it going for the one you don't really want.

    After a while of lightening the load, £1 per 1g saved becomes common place. If you spent £250 on an UL tent to save a whopping half a kilo, that still only equates to £1 per 2g saved.

    Its best not to justify these buys in terms of weight saved, more you want and need them for the hobby you enjoy.
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  12. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Almost every time I've saved money getting cheaper stuff I end up later getting the one I wanted in the first place.
    If your anything like me 150 + 315 is more than 315!
    Being warm at night and getting a good night's sleep can make such a difference, having made a down quilt I think 315 for a top quality warm quilt is good value given the cosy of materials and just how much work is involved.
  13. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Agree.
    I've 'traded up' several times to get the gear I have now. Avoiding as much of that as possible is desirable :thumbsup:.
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  14. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I seem to end up with a lot of second or sometimes third hand gear, apart from sleeping kit and footwear which I purchase new. I'm not saying I don't buy new but with a bit a patience the kit I want usually comes along. It's a good way to save a few pennies and there's never a shortage of quality used kit getting moved on in this hobby.

    2nd hand purchases that come to mind: cuben Duomid, cuben Solomid, ULA CDT, ULA Relay, ULA AirX, Ti Tri Caldera Cone, Bushbuddy, BD Trail poles, MSR Titan kettle, JRB Sierra Sniveller quilt (exception), ti Honey stove, Primus ETA pots, Snow Peak solo set, and lots more I can't remember.
  15. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    I can't remember the last time i didnt buy second hand or from a shop with a decent sale reduction. It depends if you have the time to wait, and not so easy if you haven't got something else to use in the meantime.

    if you specifically want an EE (I'd go for the 700g) you may have a long wait fo 2nd hand, i had searches set up for over a year, and ended up with a Panyam new (reduced 20% in a sale)
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  16. Bopdude

    Bopdude Section Hiker

    Can you divulge the program /s used for that please :)
  17. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    I imagine he means saved searches on eBay.
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  18. murpharoo

    murpharoo Section Hiker

    I agree with @Shewie. I've bought loads of mint quality 2nd hand gear by just keeping my eyes and ears open especially on the forums.
    Eg Golite packs, Cuben Duomid, Cuben Solomid XL, Stephensons Warmlite 2R and a lovely black Cuben Khufu. Those savings felt good ! Whether I really need the shelters is another matter.... especially if you ask my girlfriend !
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  19. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Besides eBay alerts, Used Outdoor Gear Search is pretty good for US forums and it has email alerts.

    So, she doesn't share your Cuben fetish? Strangely, non-SWOT* spouses rarely do...

    * Silent Wives of Treklite
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  20. murpharoo

    murpharoo Section Hiker

    Shhhhhh :bucktooth:. Cuben... that's what my cheap tents are made from....
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  21. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    I shall admit (but only in the presence of my legal counsel) that Cuben's passing resemblance with stiff rubbish bag material can be beneficial to strife-free marital relations. ;)
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  22. Scotty Von Porkchop

    Scotty Von Porkchop Ultralighter

    I use the 860fp from extrem textil which will be roughly 950fp by the US standard and I absolutely think it's worth the money. The bigger clusters clump in a good way to minimise down shift and make a super luxurious quilt too. Though I've never used the EE down though
  23. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I too have bought a lot of kit 2nd hand. Especially, US sellers with US brand kit ……you can usually persuade them to post with 'adjusted' customs values which is a great 'saving'.

    Only 2 large items have I been 'duped/p*ssed off with' the item. A tent (from US) and a sleeping bag (UK) - In both cases from climbing forums. Left me with the impression that climbers use their gear 'hard' and are prone to 'bullshit' when they want to sell :mad:.
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  24. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    i did - and keep a keen eye on the classifieds on the usual forums and Outdoor Gear Exchange
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  25. Davy

    Davy Thru Hiker

    I bought new stuff mostly of late and it seems to be staying pristine in a cupboard a lot at the moment :(

    On a positive note I'm losing a few hundred grammes a week from my middle and saving cash on travel with my newish cycle commute :)

    Roll on the summer hols....
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