Discussion in 'Places & Planning' started by Gadget, Dec 4, 2018.
Last year they had heavy snow
My vargo cleats were really useful last march. Especially on pen du fan where the snow had been compressed. Am I the only one hoping for snow? (Googles ultralight snow shovels)
As I'm not intimate with the place, hoping someone local will help with organising.
(I was hoping to just come along for the ride @Dave V ?)
Think there are a few locals on here, and I know @NEEpps has frequented the area. From my experience there are two honey pots, pen y fan 886m and the peaks around llyn y fan fach 749 and 802m. Pen y fan will be mega busy, though there is a lovely horse shoe route. Llyn fan fach area less busy but still beautiful. I think the more West you go the less inhabited and presumably the better for wild camping. Or there are the bits North of abergavenny, I've not been but on the map looks like some nice ridge walks with some 800m peaks. Waun fach for one.
Just saw Neil suggested a meet up point/camp/bunk house in ystradfellte which is between llyn fan fach and pen y fan
Black Mountain area is quieter and probably better for wild camps. The Black Mountains are also a little quieter but not sure if any quiet sheltered camping spots can be found, there is a lovely little spot by the dam but its on a walking route.
There is ystradfellte as above. The pub that @FOX160 http://www.tafarnygarreg.co.uk/ and I met at, has a little camping ground and plenty of car parking. It's near Glytawe and provides access to the ridge Fan Hir. Great route. Only downside is £10 a night.Good food though.
Talybont Reservoir as suggested by @Jamess.
That pub/house was nice with good food and beer, tempted but unsure if this would be to cold for me :/
If your short of warm gear I'm sure the horde could help.
I am not sure about the temperature either so will wait and see how the weather develops and decide closer to the time.
I am sure I have gear suitable for the overnight temperature but I would have to take my down bag (not a fan of bags anymore) and the nights are that much longer still.
It's all the standing around that makes me cold. I have pretty much decided to send that MHW Phantom back which is a shame as the 2 1/2" of loft would have been perfect for wales
@JKM and @FOX160 Come on lads it's not the Artic. I'll lend you my STS Base Camp 3 down bag if you need it Grant, in quilt mode it's to to -10. Not James unless he changes his tent habits.
You can give that Yama a good testing.
I've got a couple of ~-10 bags too if needed. More likely to rain than snow I'd have thought. Tempted to bring my mid sized knot mid, enough space to socialize out of the weather.
It looks like I won't be able to attend now But i will hopefully be there a bit later in March.. as a side question re: Beacons in march, what kind of elevations would one expect to need microspikes (or crampons) in mid-late march? Bit early to know of course, but just trying to get some ideas
When I was there last year in March, I had snow above 400m and could have done with spikes. @Enzo went a week after me and I think also had snow.
I don't know what's normal that time of year, I think @NEEpps and I were there for the tail end of the beast from the east. Snow over ~600m for me.
Thanks Neil and Lorenzo would be good to test the Yama before I order a Cirriform. I’ll will have to see nearer the time as my hands kinda seized last time I was there.
Out of interest folks, is this still looking like it is on?
Might be able to make that weekend but won't know until close to the time. No longer have gear for snow (axe/crampons etc) and only lightweight boots though I'm sure they'd do as long as I'm not kicking steps Rest of the gear will cope I'm sure.
With typical British weather, you're just as likely to need a snorkel!
Well, I hope so. I have a pass from the fun sheriff and I'm angling for one of those seats in @Dave V 's car!
Not really the one to drive the logistics forward on this one. Despite having walked most of the area, that was 30 years ago (and I was trailing along behind my brother, thumb up arse). But might be worth tapping up @Imperial Dave for some proposed camp spots, he posted up some useful stuff for the Black Mountains over here
Yeah, most likely but if the forecast looks like snow, they'd be wise to have I reckon. Technically I still have a couple of axes but their about 50cm long and designed for steep ice which I used to do many years ago, but probably not ideal for walking. I'll think about another one for next year if I'm spending more time out in the snow, along with some microspikes etc
I'm hoping to make this too if I can shoehorn it in. I have another 16hr first aid course the weekend before and Ten Tors training the weekend after... But if Dave is driving....
If reading it right, as discussed above by NEEPs et al it's already been decided it's in the west (Black Mountain/Fforest Fawr)?
As long as it's not a big dump of snow and you don't play on the scarp faces (why would you?) then you're unlikely to need more than microspikes and poles in my experience of the area at that time of year. If it's super deep snow it might make things different.
Microspikes are worth having anywhere it's ever icy - on an compacted road snow/icy lanes for instance. I use them most winters it's frozen. - when wet bogs freeze and dome up they are invaluable for moving fast
Did someone say Dave was driving?
If I do make it, I'd be able to offer a lift too, which might work for Paul as we're close.
I have some of those coiled wire things that go over shoes which I find good in the snow but probably not ideal for icy slopes. What's the recommended options on microspikes?
Yaktrack XTRs have done me well, currently about £15 cheaper than Kahtoolas
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