A Frame or single pole on Mids

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by el manana, Jul 4, 2017.

  1. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Could i have some views on whether anyone prefers using an A frame pole set up on their Mids instead of a single pole?

    Are there any particular benefits like stability?

    I made my own from 2 bits of 7075 Alu connected by a section of hose pipe, works okay but i cant seem to get away with the set up. The poles seem extended too long (BD flicklocks) and although its solid it doesn't look as stable as a single pole. i didnt use a connecting cord to the base of each pole, dont know if that makes a difference other than easier pitching?...

    Any views or experiences?

    cheers
  2. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I use two poles as an A frame with my Solomid, space is tight in there so moving the poles to the outer edge really helps open it up, and they offer a bit more support in a hoolie. 145cm pole handles just go up in the apex without any extra joining pieces with the Solomid.

    With my Duomid I use a single pole, I find there's much more room to maneuver around a centre pole in the DM, I put it at a slant and move it out 8-10" to give a bit more elbow room. Not tried an A frame in the DM yet but had it out in some good testing weather now, enough to make me think I'll stick with the single pole.
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  3. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    ive tired A in duomid a few times works ok.i have a set length of cord across the bottom to help keep it together,bit of a farce to get it in place and not nice dropping it in big winds either,tend to just stick with single pole now much easier pitching and dropping it
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  4. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    Same as Shewie, two poles handles-up into the apex of my little Knot 'mid provides a stable and more spacious arrangement than a single pole. An added advantage is that no guyline from the long sides of the tent is required. That means you can squeeze onto the verge of a green lane if you need to.
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  5. Robin

    Robin Thru Hiker

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  6. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    I think i'll give it a try next time, see if the better access is worth the extra faff, cant really tell from a garden pitch. I'm a restless sleeper, on Kirk Fell i woke a couple of times with my back leaning against the single pole.

    Thanks all :thumbsup:
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  7. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    A frame with trekking poles for the Solomid, it gives more space and helps with stability so a win win.
    Single adjustable DAC tarp pole with my sil minipeak, as I've not always used poles, but have never had a problem. I offset it to the front as I slept a bit on the diagonal.
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  8. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Pitch with one pole and then invert second pole and attach for strength.
    Personally prefer this method now.

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  9. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

  10. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    God Forbid el, even I can't manage one of them.......its the ZPacks Hexamid Plus Tarp with MLD's mesh Inner...innit:confuseded::o o:

    Note the, 'M'......
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  11. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    I now prefer this method to single pole or two poles joined by a connector for my DuoMid, don't bother with A Frame. It's very quick - I use three pieces of OneWrap velcro to lash the poles together on my DuoMid - light and secure.

    For my 1.25m wide Mid clone, I usually use a single pole with a rubber stop. It's wide enough for me to work around the pole.

    Just one question, were you hopping mad when you took the first photo @Lady Grey?
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  12. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    I was waiting for the sock comment.....:o o:
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  13. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Pole dance in a tent, el?:whistling:
  14. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

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  15. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    :rolleyes::laugh::laugh::laugh:

    He should be on TV...wasted talent...:wink:....
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  16. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    :angelic: Disappointing to hang your sock out and find that Santa left you nothing...been naughty?
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  17. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Always, Graham....:p
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  18. Robert P

    Robert P Backpacker

    Not a great pic below (even if it works!), but my personal preference with the Solomid is an inverted V: using the MLD pole jacks joined by some duck tape. Removing trekking pole baskets can be difficult/messy, so I have a section of bubble wrap with a hole so that the baskets don't rub the cuben. I won't make any claims that this is an elegant solution, but it does work!

    The inverted V seems to provide some support to the large side panel when it is windy, and for some reason it seems to be easier to get a good pitch versus a single pole.
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  19. Robert P

    Robert P Backpacker

    Having seen the Tramplite shelter being pitched I had a go at a similar single-pole pitching approach with the Solomid. Pegged out the two back corners, inserted the pole and pulled up the tent from a guy attached to the apex 'til taut. It was then easy to peg out the front two corners and other guys. I often find the Solomid a bit tricky to pitch well (maybe because it prefers level ground). I may have been lucky on this occasion (?!), but this method seems easier than getting the perfect rectangle pegging out the 4 corners first and is an alternative to my usual preference of the inverted V 2-pole pitch.
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  20. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    The little knot mid has an apex designed to just chuck the handles of the walking poles into. It works well.
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  21. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Thru Hiker

    Amazingly stable and roomy when you this.
  22. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Duomid owners who use an A frame.... do you have these measurements to hand?:

    A = Length the poles are set to (including joiner)
    B = Distance between the base of both poles
    C = Height the Duomid is pitched

    I'm making a DPTE and would like to compare my dimensions. Cheers.

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  23. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    Think my Duomid is an early model .so my C is 54” ..not sure on others,cud get you them at wknd if needs be ..
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  24. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    No rush mate :thumbsup: will be making the bits this weekend before connecting up.
  25. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    You’ll need to remind me tho..I’m home from 12 on Friday.. been a heavy wk .3 day managers iosh health and safety course then sold and bought another house and sorted a mortgage..very busy 3 days...... ahh well managed 2 yrs being mortgage free :meh:

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