CCF Mats

Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Ally, May 15, 2018.

  1. Ally

    Ally Trail Blazer

    This will most likely be a daft question that I am overthinking but....

    I'm looking for a closed cell mat to serve three purposes-

    1. A back pad for a frame-less pack.

    2. Protection for for a blow up mat ( I've been stuck in winter with a punctured mat before ).

    3. A little extra insulation for a blow up mat.

    Are all closed cell mats created equal in insulation ? Ie a £5 4mm yoga mat V 4mm multimat

    Any other suggestions for the above uses ?
  2. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I use 3mm for the purposes you mention

    It's basically the same as the GG Thinlight pad

    I can't remember what size i cut mine to but it's the full 50cm width and folds into thirds, that slides down nicely into my @theoctagon packs, maybe 100cm long, weighs 45g 'ish

    Makes for a useful sit/kneeling pad but it does a really good job of stopping my mat sliding about in the bivvy or on polycryo sheet. I can't bring myself to ditch the inflatable pad yet and use the 3mm mat, that seems to be the trick to getting under 6lbs
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  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    220g for a small xlite is an awful lot of comfort/warmth per gram IMHO
    The z lite clones make good external back supports with ventilating bumps
  4. Imperial Dave

    Imperial Dave Section Hiker

    still use my thinlight.....very very good bit of kit
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  5. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Section Hiker

  6. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    DPM Barrier Laminate floor underlay - 3mm


    I use a 1.6m length x 0.6m of this folded as my Prophet backpad. It goes under my Neoair in winter. One of the best insulators around, i think it only weighs 60-70g.

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  7. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Just remembered this thread
  8. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    I use LD33 platazote foam from the same seller as @Shewie linked to (via the efoams shop, not eBay). Not quite sure why it is superior, chemical composition probably but it also comes in yellow, red or blue :dude: and I didn't fancy just black.

    El's £1/m stuff is a bargain, but not quite as cheerfull as a sea of yellow foam
  9. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

  10. Ally

    Ally Trail Blazer

    Thanks for all the replays. Plenty there to work with.
  11. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

  12. sporangiophore

    sporangiophore Backpacker

    I have this army surplus CCF mat. It is 3mm thick and 190 x 60cm. It is heavy for a CCF pad - 380g - but it's really dense, indestructible foam, absolutely bombproof. I've bought a strip of the blue foam that @JKM suggested above, which is lovely and light, but nowhere near as robust as the army one, which I think will last forever. It folds down to a 38 x 27cm rectangle, designed to slot in the back of a pack and act as a frame.
    It's probably too heavy to be useful for most people. But if you were looking for a CCF mat that's completely bombproof (maybe for your apocalypse survival bag?) this would be a good choice.
  13. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    380g :eeker: ouch! My fully insulated exped mat weighs about the same, horrifically expensive in comparison though :(

    We may be using it for entirely different purposes though, i only use the 3mm stuff i linked to for UL sitmats or a cold weather booster for under the exped mat and I don't sleep directly on it.

    Sounds good for a hard-wearing alternative for some purposes but I would hardly ever have a need to carry a whole mats worth anyway.
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2018
  14. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I've got a cut down piece of German mat kicking about somewhere, just four sections but I can't remember the weight
  15. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    That sounds like good stuff for pack making - waist and shoulder straps.
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  16. sporangiophore

    sporangiophore Backpacker

    Aye, I only take the army mat when I'm car camping, too heavy otherwise.
    So I've just made a rather spiffing blue sleeping mat from the stuff you linked to earlier, weighing 76g! How do you find the durability of this stuff? I'm a bit wary that it's going to get ripped to shreds on my first trip, what's your experience been?
  17. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    I've got a few sections of those mats cut up. One has made a great section that folds into 4; it fits perfectly in the back panel of one of my packs, just big enough to go above the hipbelt and under the straps.

    Although it's heavy, it's very compact and I'm always impresses with the way it folds. :)

    ~75g for the 2 section, ~150 for the 4 section 60x 80 mat.
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  18. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    I think it's fine but I did not have very high expectations of durability anyway. It think it wears fine but it is not very puncture resistant. Short cut heather easily peirces it.
  19. sporangiophore

    sporangiophore Backpacker

    Hmm ok, I guess it'll still work with a few wee holes anyway
  20. Leap1

    Leap1 Day Walker

    Got myself a Plastazote sheet here for a pretty good price.
  21. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    I was going to buy the multimat ultralite mat then spotted the oex version which looks and weighs exactly the same but is cheaper. I cut it down to 120cm so it can fit in my bag as a support. Weighs 100g or so.
  22. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Ultralighter

    That is a really keen price-I can't find the weight though? Which size did you get and what was the weight please.
  23. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Price is good, postage not so much at twice the price of the foam :(
  24. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Ultralighter

    Is that in reference to my query craige? If so you are not wrong!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:Seems like 40 pounds + for delivery. Perhaps I get a massage with the delivery.:thumbsup:
  25. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    LD33 is the density, well 33 is, in kg/m3 so theoretically you can calculate the weight. If you can't be bothered, I think 33 is one of the lighter densities produced so it should be fairly light.

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