Do you use a liner?

Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by JKM, May 23, 2016.

  1. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    Have recently acquired my first down bag and was wondering if should get a liner for it.

    I imagine I will always be sleeping in it in cleanish long top / leggins and have a tumble drier etc at home so can wash it myself.

    Not too tempted to pay £40+ for a silk liner or carry the weight of a cheaper one. But I also want the bag to last a while.

    General consensus for liners, yes or no? Silk or something cheaper?

    If you know of something both cheap and light, please share!

    Cheers
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  2. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    No, don't use a liner. Probably should...
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  3. Robin

    Robin Moderator Staff Member

    Nope. I wear base layers. More comfortable and double use. Rohan ultra silver base layers are nice to sleep in. I've found liners get all tangled.
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  4. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    They're a bit of a pain with my zipless bags but I occasionally use one
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  5. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I take a liner sometimes. Usually in poorer/wet/ cool weather. I sometimes sleep in my trousers if it's cold (rarely take spares), so it protects my bag from dirt.
    Or as a boost to my quilt. My liner is only ever worn up to under my armpits, so I cut it shorter and re-hem. EBay is worth a look.

    I'd never pay 40 for one though

    Pertex is ok.

    I prefer my liners trim, if too much fabric, they twist up and annoy.
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  6. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

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  7. Davy

    Davy Thru Hiker

    I've got a cheap silk liner I sometimes use. It's 100g and was a lot less than £40. A bit of a faff but not excessively so.

    I normally wear base layers and socks irrespective but may need to revisit this this summer now I've a decent down bag...
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  8. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    If you put a watch on ebay i picked up an unused StS silk one for £13.
    Dont find it an issue using, should use it more than I do.
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  9. Jamess

    Jamess Section Hiker

    I always use a silk liner in my down bags. It increases the interval before the bag needs cleaning. I bought a new one over the weekend for £6.99 from a UK eBay seller.
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  10. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    @Jamess do you have a link or recall the seller?
  11. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

    Same here.
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  12. Myles21

    Myles21 Ultralighter

    No, no liner. I have a spare set of baselayers that I keep for sleeping in (no way am I sleeping in my hiking clothes) which double as backup baselayers in case it gets really cold. I have been slightly tempted by the Alpkit liner, but it's still £45:
    https://www.alpkit.com/products/mantua
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  13. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    Never used one in 30 yrs ..sleep in bed clothes which can at a push be used through the day while walking,but like to have a dry set to put on at camp
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  14. Charles42

    Charles42 Trail Blazer

    Nope. Find liners get tangled and uncomfortable. Use sleep sox and Rohans , like Robin.Use as change of clothes as well
    for camp/evening use . Handy if you get wet during the day . More versatile than a liner.
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  15. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    No liner here either, but like a few others on here i also have a clean, dry set of Rohan ultra silver base layers to change into.
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  16. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    The Rohan Ultra silver base layers seem very popular!
    I have a pair of the undies and they are exceptionally light, comfy and quick drying. Do the L/S tops and leggings keep you reasonably warm also?
  17. Jamess

    Jamess Section Hiker

    Seller is called vintageplace23.
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  18. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    +1 for sleeping clothes. Only like & used liners in Eastern European hostels where the airco has broken down. :)

    A liner has no purpose during my trips. I tried them; used a STS Coolmax and a silk liner but got all tangled up and found them awkward to get in or out.
    It's just another thing to take care off, to be honest.
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  19. Creamy

    Creamy Section Hiker

    Hi jkm
    What's the bag if I can ask?
    This is a topic that is about opinions and personal choices. Here's mine.
    I use a liner in down bags if out for more than a few nights. So much depends I guess on if you can wash properly before bed usually not much wild camping. I don't carry bed clothes sleep in birthday suit and use either a sea to summit reactalite which is just over 200g and they claim adds 8c or a thin silk in warmer Temps
    They can as others point out get all tangled up. Find a cheapie and give it a go.
    One point on some cold nights I had my liner wrapped around my neck and hanging down my back while cooking. Didn't take a warmer camp top.
    Good luck.
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  20. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    Hi, nothing fancy, an alpkit skyehigh500.

    I haven't used it yet but I don't really like sleeping bags at the best if times so I think I will find a very cheap liner to test and see if I get on with it. Then at least I can keep it in a decent condition in case I dont get on with the bag and want to sell it.
    Last bag was a very cheap synthetic mummy bag from tescos that was quite good actually, well under 1kg and packed down well. Since it only cost me £10 I have not been too worried about keeping it nice.
  21. Creamy

    Creamy Section Hiker

    Wouldn't describe the bag that way. A great bag for the price. I have one and a pipedream 400. Considering the Arctic 1200 for next winter. Good luck as said.
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  22. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Haven't used my silk liners in a few years now as liners, they only see use as a sleeping bag replacement.

    I don't have any issues with the comfort of the things, silk is slippy enough to not tangle round my legs.
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  23. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    Even better as it was half price due to a repair to the hood that takes a while to find, just a tiny adhesive patch on the inside of the lining.
    They were out if stock when I bought it so I thought I would ask if they had any old seconds lying around and they had several.
    If you want another AK bag it's well worth giving them a call and asking what seconds they have in the shop.
  24. shetland_breeder

    shetland_breeder Ultralighter

    The vast majority, if not all, of those cheap 'silk' liners are not made of silk at all but of viscose, (Rayon, 'bamboo' or whatever). You have to read the small print to find out.

    Viscose fabric feels vaguely like silk but is similar to cotton in its physical properties. It is made from cellulose (bamboo, soy, sugar cane) by a very environmentally unfriendly process - lots of nasty solvents involved.

    Pete
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  25. Scotty Von Porkchop

    Scotty Von Porkchop Ultralighter

    I like a liner in warm weather as it's nice to still be covered up when it's too hot for the quilt and it seems to keep the quilt in better condition when things warm up and sweat is an issue but still cool enough pre dawn to need the quilt (and protects the fabric from my mashed up feet!).

    I did buy a silk liner that felt pretty nice but wasn't great for slipping about and was weirdly sweaty. I now use the proper habutai momme which is great but sticks to my calluses and comes really thin bolt of fabric, I usually use safety pins to keep it in place.

    In colder weather I use my silk base layers, fragile and uncomfortable to walk in but I love it for sleeping in.

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