duomid pole jack

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by rich3, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    Anyone know where I can get a longer pole jack for my duomid in the UK. The one that came with it is 15 cm but I've found my pacer poles are on full extension using this...I reckon I need 20-25 cm to allow for an uneven pitch.
  2. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Hopefully someone can provide a UK source for you @rich3
    For that length of jack I'd recommend that you find yourself a good strong alloy. In case you struggle finding a UK source, I got mine from Bear Paw Wilderness Designs - their Easton 625" OD tube is sold in various lengths and was a perfect fit for my BD poles. They got it to me pdq. http://bearpawwd.com/poles_stakes/poles_stakes.php#jack
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  3. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    I made mine using B&Q 16mm aluminium tube (actually 5/8")+ silicone cartridge nozzle (mouldable packer to get a good fit).

    An alternative to a jack is a 'joiner': drop the handle sections & join the lower two sections of the pacers with a 20cm piece of an old pole; probably stronger than a jack & lighter.
    I've converted the Pacers over to flicklock so I use a 20cm piece with a flicklock on each end, you also need a street foot on one of the tips; not the lightest (~75g) but bomber.
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  4. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I only use a single pole rather than an A-frame but use the same method as Whiteburn

    If you ask Heather at Pacer nicely she might send you an 18mm section you can use as an extender
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  5. murpharoo

    murpharoo Section Hiker

    Agreed - I asked her nicely and she saw fit to send me one through the post ... gratis - great service :)
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  6. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    DSC_1045.JPG I made some 24cm from the top section of an old Leki ultralite walking pole. Fit the pole tips perfectly
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2016
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  7. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    Just about to email heather and ask if she can send me a section of pole. Cheers everyone..good advice.
  8. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    I use a piece about 10" long rich3 .and remove handle section from my 3 section Pacers and join them ..are you still after some ?
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  9. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    Yes I'm still after some...I've emailed Heather at pacerpole but don't know if she'll respond.
  10. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    Spontaneously and rather extravagantly just ordered a pole jack from bearpawwd. £18 with postage (hopefully no import duty! ) for the 12" Easton alloy one. I know there were cheaper solutions but didn't want to chance my pole failing in a storm so played it safe.
    Thanks for everyone's replies.
  11. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    not a fan off the pole jack idea myself,less so for a storm.But others have probably used them ok
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  12. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    I bought a 16" length of "0.625" Easton tent pole w/o insert" from bearpawwd i.e. the same tube as the jack but the 16" tent pole length and two vinyl end caps. I cut the tube in two using a basic tube cutting tool (that you wind around the tube), filed it down to get a nice smooth end and stuck on the cap. That gave me two 8" lengths that I use with my BD poles to form the A for my 1P Mid.

    For my DuoMid, I've used the MLD supplied jack in storms with no problem. What I did though was to invert the trekking pole so that the jack was in the apex. You will get a small bit of 'play' at the junction between pole and jack and that will be magnified up the trekking pole to give a fair amount of wobble at the apex. Having the pole jack in the top reduces that a fair amount. That configuration also helps you access the apex mitten clips easier if you're using those.

    Until I was happy about the end cap, I initially folded up a small stuff sack I was carrying anyway and placed that between the jack cap and the DuoMid apex reinforcement.
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  13. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    I found my pacer pole was past the stop mark on both sections with a 6" jack on a couple of occasions with uneven ground. I always use the jack at the top. I've got an ookworks solo nest and have to angle the pole if I want to zip it fully up. Otherwise the handle had to sit inside the nest in it's strongest/vertical position.
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  14. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    I've used both & much prefer the pole joiner; zero wobble makes me feel happier.
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  15. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    I've never heard/read of a decent quality alu pole jack failing though. Has anyone?
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  16. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    Especially an over priced Easton alloy one from America! ! (Hopefully )
  17. rich3

    rich3 Trekker

    Heather of pacerpoles sent me a section of tube to join my 2 sets of lower two pole sections together. Free! But with a suggested contribution to a Nepal charity (which I have done).
    It works really well and is the same weight as the 12" Easton pole jack I have just received from bear pawed.
    Anyone want the pole jack !!
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  18. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Suggest you keep it for now and try out both systems on a nice windy day. The extender will be fastest to setup and of course requires just the one pole...if you're into 'scenarios'.
  19. Myles21

    Myles21 Ultralighter

    I think BPL UK do a few types of pole extenders (to fit different diameters and types of trek poles). Not sure if that's what you had in mind?
  20. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter

    I have a joining section for my pacers I bought from bpl. I also have the extension pole that slides over the tip...

    I plan to use neither so up for grabs if you cover postage
  21. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Anyone know which of these; 12mm, 14mm, 16mm extenders you need for Black Diamond flicklock Trail Pro's? (to use as a single pole)

    (I think I have the 16mm one for my Leki Ultralite)
  22. Myles21

    Myles21 Ultralighter

    El Manana - from the 14mm and 16mm extender pages:

    "Please note: The Black Diamond/Leki 'click/flick lock' system I'm afraid is NOT compatible with this simple device. Please see The Missing Link 12mm extender for that fitting."

    Are your poles the flick lock type? If so sounds like the 12mm is what you need. You could always ask Bob and Rose.
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  23. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    You need 12mm, I made 2 from a Trekking Pole from AliExpress, $11, + a bit of scrap 14mm for the centre ferrule (you could just use tape or an 'O' ring); it took 10 mins to make 2; 16g.

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  24. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Thanks Myles, i just had a brief look this morning, didnt have time. Whiteburns suggestion might be the answer, £15 + PP is a bit pricey from BPL.
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  25. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    One thing I would recommend is to offset the connector as far from centre point as practical in use, the 12mm section is obviously the weak point.
    Set one pole to max (with tip section removed) & then adjust the overall length on the other pole that way you'll get the maximum vertical capacity; probably only 15 - 20% more end load capacity but it cost nothing.
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