Luxe hexpeak side wall guys

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Time vans

Trekker
I’ve recently joined the fellowship of hexpeakers and have followed the advice on here by replacing all of the guys with 3mm polypropylene cord, which seems pretty solid in the linelocks. I have also swapped the pegs for chunkier alpkit pegs. In the wind last week it seemed pretty rock solid.

I have some cord for the side guy points but that got me thinking, are they really necessary? What do you all think?

I also bought a lanshan 1 ground sheet for the porch area..all good quality and a pretty good fit. Links to photos below..(not sure how to attach actual photos)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/73928339@N03/51094871383/in/dateposted-public

https://www.flickr.com/photos/73928339@N03/51095143120/in/dateposted-public
 
TinTin

TinTin

Thru Hiker
Time vans said:
I’ve recently joined the fellowship of hexpeakers and have followed the advice on here by replacing all of the guys with 3mm polypropylene cord, which seems pretty solid in the linelocks. I have also swapped the pegs for chunkier alpkit pegs. In the wind last week it seemed pretty rock solid.

I have some cord for the side guy points but that got me thinking, are they really necessary? What do you all think?

I also bought a lanshan 1 ground sheet for the porch area..all good quality and a pretty good fit. Links to photos below..(not sure how to attach actual photos)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/73928339@N03/51094871383/in/dateposted-public

https://www.flickr.com/photos/73928339@N03/51095143120/in/dateposted-public
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I've sold my Hex but I reckon they would be useful in gusty wind. Maybe carry 3 and put them on the windward side on windy nights. I used to just use mine but then I've been known to wear belt and bracers.
 
Mole

Mole

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I added them to my Hex 3. ( It's nearly identical successor the Shangri-la3 does have the extra tieouts)

Found them useful in really bad wind. Stops the side bowing in. Though mine are mid panel rather than corner seams.
Had mine in enough wind to bend my Black Diamond poles. Met Office said 50mph gusting 70mph though. (Second night out, and it got worse than originally forecast).

Friend with a Hexpeak I hiked with in Scotland a few times always used his extra guys.. Maybe not completely necessary, but bound to be better than not using them in strong winds?
 
Fossil Bluff

Fossil Bluff

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I’ve used them on mine, we didn’t have them on the original Golite Hex, although some folks had them added aftermarket.

This poor chap needed his. I’ve translated his comments on the vid - which are pretty much **you weren’t there, Man... this was as good as it got that day, it was like TentAgeddon** ... well that sort of thing.

 
Diddi

Diddi

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I tie mine up until I retire to bed then I place them out.
1. So I didn't trip over them in the evening.
2. The weather usually gets worse during the night so it saves getting up.
 
Rog Tallbloke

Rog Tallbloke

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Fossil Bluff said:
I’ve used them on mine, we didn’t have them on the original Golite Hex, although some folks had them added aftermarket.

This poor chap needed his. I’ve translated his comments on the vid - which are pretty much **you weren’t there, Man... this was as good as it got that day, it was like TentAgeddon** ... well that sort of thing.

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The thing with single pole tents is there is a LOT of force pushing the pole base into the ground in a hoolie. It only takes 20mm pole height difference to turn a nice taut hex into a flappy kite. There's no way you'll be able to retension in those conditions so it's essential to put the base of the pole on something that can't be forced into the soil.
 
Dave V

Dave V

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Rog Tallbloke said:
The thing with single pole tents is there is a LOT of force pushing the pole base into the ground in a hoolie. It only takes 20mm pole height difference to turn a nice taut hex into a flappy kite. There's no way you'll be able to retension in those conditions so it's essential to put the base of the pole on something that can't be forced into the soil.
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I often carry a bike stand plate and if pitching higher / in expected poor conditions. I try and put that on top of a rock or thick foliage. - https://www.oxfordproducts.com/moto...travel_and_transportation/paddock_mate_black/

As for the guys. I have them ready to attach for my SL3 but I use shock cord on them. I have tried it both ways and the attachments are plenty strong enough as they are in to the seam but I find without the shock cord there is one hell of a snap/slap noise in buffeting wind. The shock cord gives just enough play to stop/reduce this and has worked fine for me.
 
TinTin

TinTin

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Rog Tallbloke said:
The thing with single pole tents is there is a LOT of force pushing the pole base into the ground in a hoolie. It only takes 20mm pole height difference to turn a nice taut hex into a flappy kite. There's no way you'll be able to retension in those conditions so it's essential to put the base of the pole on something that can't be forced into the soil.
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I bet he started with a flappy kite. Alan Sloman uses the end off the drum packaging from malt whisky and drills a hole in it for his Trailstar. I reckon something like that is a good idea. My Fizans came with a selection of baskets I think I'm going to start carrying one of them.
 
Dave V

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I have used jar lids in the past and think I still have one with my TS inner but I have the stand plates but no bike anymore. They have a good texture on top so the pole does not slip and the plastic is pretty sturdy and does not bend.
 
T

Time vans

Trekker
Thanks for the tips everyone..I made a pole stand from a 110mm polypipe drain cap which I had spare. I sawed the sides off so that it is a rigid disc and drilled a central hole to take the luxe pole spike. It doesn’t sink and the spike grips into the ground below.

I have some 2mm cord and line locks, so I’ll experiment with the guying points.
 
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TinTin

TinTin

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I once made some spacer rings/washers using a hole cut saw out of 6mm Plexiglass. I might have one kicking around in the garage.
 
Diddi

Diddi

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Im going to make a Ti plate tomorrow ..
Using a rubber bung thats prob not ideal...
 
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dovidola

dovidola

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I carry two detachable guys (2mm dyneema) which I can attach to the windward side(s) of my Hex if I think it'll need it. I've found them essential in strong wind.

Rather than using a pole stand I join both my poles with a short section of alu tube (Bob Cartwright at backpackinglight.co.uk supplies one he calls a Missing Link), which results in a very sturdy and adjustable support which is fat at each end, so little by way of 'sinkage' issues. Generally I can find a couple of wide flat stones near camp - one is used as a cooker base, and the other is available to place beneath the pole if the ground is particularly soft. If there's still a bit of sinking, things can be easily firmed up again with an internal adjustment to pole length, something which also works to correct nylon sag without the need to exit the tent and adjust the guying.
 
Norrland

Norrland

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Dave V said:
I often carry a bike stand plate and if pitching higher / in expected poor conditions. I try and put that on top of a rock or thick foliage. - https://www.oxfordproducts.com/moto...travel_and_transportation/paddock_mate_black/

As for the guys. I have them ready to attach for my SL3 but I use shock cord on them. I have tried it both ways and the attachments are plenty strong enough as they are in to the seam but I find without the shock cord there is one hell of a snap/slap noise in buffeting wind. The shock cord gives just enough play to stop/reduce this and has worked fine for me.
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Did you use shock cord for the entire line or only part of it?
 
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