Making a Cone using Captain Paranoias Cone Potstand Tool on Zenstoves.net - busting the myth?

Discussion in 'DIY & MYOG' started by Mole, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    If there is a bug, I'll find it. :D

    I split it up, came out the same.

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  2. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Teepee

    what I said! Just tried it and it makes a much taller template
    Might let Kevin (Capt P) know
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  3. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    That second one you uploaded still has zero in stove offset?

    I split your 51 to 25 and 26

    uploaded taller template

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  4. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    More weirdness-my input page shows the split at 25/26. :wacky: :roflmao:.

    Thanks muchly Mole, I'll take that and run with it. Large cone incoming....
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  5. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

    @Mole yes bigger pot bigger muffin:)..will use the pattern you've shared just need to get some alu foil to cut it from...the proper size caldera works great but its the compactness of the setup with UCL that is nice to have as an option:)...

    Thanks!
  6. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

    @Teepee is the pot Evernew 900 ml "squat" version or Evernew 900ml pasta pot?
  7. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    The Evernew pot is actually a Snowpeak. :roflmao: ( I always mix the two up) A Multi-compact Ti set. I've edited the post above.

    The cone came out the wrong length, about 4" short. It will fit the 600 pan though with slight some adjustments and good for playing with the hole setups. :)
  8. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Too short? :confuseded:

    Are you sure the circumference you measured is correct?

    :woot:
  9. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    did the ally foil take the weight ok or have you not been able to test. Plenty more here for you if you narced it all up :D

    ive only been trying to get shot of it for 5 years lol
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  10. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Triple checked dim's and all correct. :hilarious:

    Ally foil felt fine. I'm sure it's strong enough for this but not able to test yet. The weight of the pot will be taken by the FF burner, so all the foil needs to do is stop the pot falling over.

    Cheers Paul. :notworthy:

    Foil me. :smuggrin:
  11. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

    @Mole pattern tweaking..I had to shorten the circumferance or wasnt sure where two pieces need to be joined...any conecting points on the pattern I should look at...

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  12. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    slovhike.

    I don't know what happened to you. That pdf is what I used to make mine. Works fine. Have you got your printer dialogue set to print pdf exactly as intended? I had to untick "shrink to fit" option.

    See this pic?
    sketch-1459344860628.jpg the red points to the tab fixing areas. Green is the parts you cut out - trapezium at top, small triangles at bottom. Dotted line is where you fold the lower tab. The other end of the cone is the opposite way around. The ends of cone overlap so tabs meet cut out trapeziums and hook over.
  13. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    Its looking like the myth of difficulty remains unbusted :D
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  14. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    :D
    Well, at least There's the option of buying off Stormin. Though it's a pity he doesn't acknowledge that he's using the script.
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  15. stormin'

    stormin' Section Hiker

    I am using a script Mole,there are other cone scripting tools out there and Kevin Beeden is indeed a great innovater. The folding tabs were originally for the softer more pliable aluminium, so they worked and were easy to form. I am now rejigging the script for a new closure method to the lower part of the split cone to suit my material.
  16. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

    @Mole thank you for clearing the joints to me..I was more thinking of the "length" when the cone is open up out but that's probably due to not knowing where two cut paper pieces should be joined together...it fits inside the pot nicely though:)....
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  17. Mole

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  18. stormin'

    stormin' Section Hiker

  19. captain paranoia

    captain paranoia Summit Camper

    I'll just point out that there is a detailed set of instructions for using the script that can be downloaded at zenstoves, alongside the script generator front end. These instructions address a number of points discussed here, including how to accurately cut the tab and slot joints (prick the tip points of the slot and tab before cutting).

    [edit] And how to split the tabs in two for thicker flashing or less ductile Ti.
    The zero burner offset/flame gap doesn't cause any problems in PostScript; I didn't expect it to, because it's never used in isolation.

    http://zenstoves.net/PotStands-Conical.htm#ConeTemplates
    http://zenstoves.net/PotStand/CptP/conic_stoveUK.doc
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2016
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  20. captain paranoia

    captain paranoia Summit Camper

    I notice the flasing that Tacblades bought from the US in made in the EU. (edit: hmmmm... Estados Unidos)

    If only we could find out where...

    Searching for the description on the label gives Spanish hits, but, whilst they're for roofing materials, they seem to be more about extruded sections than flashing. Something lost in translation...
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2016
  21. captain paranoia

    captain paranoia Summit Camper

    Sadly, the second point I need to make is a reminder that the script is not for commercial use, either as provided on OM or zenstoves, or any modification of the script or templates it generates.

    The reasoning behind this is that Trail Designs have a US patent on their Caldera Cone, and the Clone respects that patent, in line with UK patent law, where DIY use is not a patent violation. The script, and the Flissure joint, are my intellectual property, and I think that gives me the right to determine how they are used. I'm delighted if people want to use the script to make clones for themselves, but not to exploit my work, and that of Trail Designs, for their own commercial ends. I hope everyone finds this reasonable.

    The maths to draw truncated cones is pretty simple. If you want to make and sell custom cones, write your own tool, and please don't use mine.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2016
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  22. stormin'

    stormin' Section Hiker

    It is made in Mexico not Spain
  23. stormin'

    stormin' Section Hiker

    Written my own script,with help from your generator.Thanks for your dedication to a great project.
  24. rorymax

    rorymax Section Hiker

    stormin, care to share your script ? (in the spirit of captain paranoia for non commercial use), I'm sure many a DIY'r might be interested.
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  25. stormin'

    stormin' Section Hiker

    You cannot be serious!

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