Pack News - a thread for new pack talk

Discussion in 'Packs & Accessories' started by murpharoo, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Probably not the best thread for asking this, but...

    Any good practices how to measure the internal dimensions of a pack.

    I'm trying to find a dry bag that would fit a bit like the bag liner you can order from Atom for their packs.
  2. tja

    tja Summit Camper

    Would they differ a lot from the outside dimensions?
  3. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I don't know, but the inside floor might be a bit tricky to measure from outside, hence asking.
  4. turkeyphant

    turkeyphant Trail Blazer

    I think accuracy of fit would depend more on what material you're going for than cut of the bag. DCF is less good at padding out awkward shape corners as I understand so might need to be better fitted than, say, a 15D/20D nylon drybag.
  5. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    It would be DCF. I already have a Gram Counter 20l or 30l bag, but the fabric tends to fall on itself when the bag is semi empty and when searching for things inside making innerds look like there's nothing but the bag itself.
  6. vaguehead

    vaguehead Trail Blazer

    Osprey have updated their Talon / Tempest line:,145,11,146

    There's a new, fancy pro version made with their supposedly more-durable-for-the-weight nanofly fabric.

    Interestingly the Talons have put on some weight. The new Talon 22 weighs about 900g, the old one 600g(according to Cotswold, maybe that's the s/m, mine in m/l weighs 782g). The new Talon 33 about 1.1kg, the old one 860g (dependent on size chosen).
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2021
  7. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Ultralighter

    Nearly 2 ton for a nearly kilo day pack... strange times indeed...
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  8. turkeyphant

    turkeyphant Trail Blazer

  9. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    The old Talon 22 was 810g
  10. ADz

    ADz Thru Hiker

    Turn it inside out? :D
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  11. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Nice one, have to see if that can be done.
  12. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    When I make mine to fit exact packs, I just measure the outside dimensions. You can't go far wrong.

    My strong advice is don't go undersize at all as it just loses packing space. Err on oversize by and inch or so and much better is a tapering profile as the slip back into the pack better when full. My tapering packing cells/liners are so much better to use than straight ones as they just drop into the pack when fully loaded.
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  13. vaguehead

    vaguehead Trail Blazer

  14. vaguehead

    vaguehead Trail Blazer

    My Talon 22 in m/l is 782g.
  15. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

  16. tom

    tom Thru Hiker

    I had to do this a few times to compare packs with makers giving capacity in various confusing ways (with and without external pockets or with or without "extension" volume etc ...). Circumference is quite straightforward to establish (sometimes different top and bottom). Circumference gives me any of the relevant measures (diameter or radius) to calculate volume based on height to where the extension collar starts. As others said, the difference between inside and outside measurements is usually neglectible...
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  17. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

  18. tarptent

    tarptent Ultralighter

    The lightest rucksack I know of at the moment which is ideal for ultralight wild camping, is the Bonfus Iterus 38L, in black 2.92 g/sq m DCF...It weighs just 265g!

    To put that in perspective, Zpacks lightest 38L pack is the Nero 38L which weighs 303g.

    Bonfus's larger Saccus 48L, only weighs 350g...The nearest Zpacks equivalent, in size, is one of their 3 different 50 litre packs...The lightest of which weighs 544g and the heaviest 583g, making them much heavier.

    The Iterus, in black (or white) 2.92 g/sq m DCF, costs £191.45 including delivery, from Italy.

    The Zpacks Nero 38L costs $199 (£141.87), which may seem like better value, but once you add postage and customs fees on, it would probably end up costing the same as the Iterus, or even more.
  19. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    The Bonfus Saccus and the Zpacks Scout, to which you're comparing it, are very different packs other than in materials and size.

    Although I assume they'll remove the Italian VAT so after UK VAT the price will be similar, I believe customs duty will be added to the cost of the Iterus.
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  20. tom

    tom Thru Hiker

    By the looks of it, it may not just "fit a ton" but perhaps also weigh "a ton"? :rolleyes:
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  21. tom

    tom Thru Hiker

    There is a Zero in top condition right here for £140 (UK posted) ;)

    [edit] including some useful extra mods ...
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  22. Allsquare

    Allsquare Summit Camper

    Link doesn't work for me. Might be interested...
  23. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

  24. tom

    tom Thru Hiker

    @Allsquare - The Nero post is in the 'Supporter Classifieds' forum - I'll repost it in the open classifieds tonight or tomorrow ...
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  25. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I watched another video by the owner and he said it's under 2lb.

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