Polartec Alpha KoolAid Thread

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Gadget, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    I've been using my Montane Allez, seems a good combo. I chuck on a MH Ghost Lite windshirt if things get chilly.
    That's 209g for the Allez, 276g for the Flash and 85g for the Ghost Lite... 570g all in.
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  2. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    My Marmot Isotherm has extra material in the form.of breathable softshell for wearing with a pack, and mesh inside for high heat areas .

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  3. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Have you ever tried the Rab Baseline top?

    I'm wondering how the Allez compares cause i sweat like a yak in a sauna at 5c in just the Baseline

    Errrrrrrrrrr nope :wideyed:
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  4. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    New trail name assigned;

    Rab C Chisbit . :D
  5. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    The baseline is much warmer. It's around twice the weight so you would expect it to be though. I don't have an Allez but have a haglofs LIM powerdry hoody with (I believe) the same fabric.
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  6. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    The Allez is a thinner lighter top than the Baseline (I don't own an Allez but I have seen them in the flesh). The Rab AL is somewhere between the two, as I suspect it the newer Power Grid Pull-on.
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  7. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

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  8. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    Sorry no experience of the Baseline, but the Allez uses POLARTEC® Power Grid™ and weighs in at 209g for my XL, compared to the Baseline that uses Polartec Power Dry and weighs in at 382g for the XL; so nearly double the weight.
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  9. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Imho alpha is leagues ahead warmth wise than grid. Disappointed to hear moles experiences with the rab alpha tops. I like the allez for sweat wicking and the way it works when warn under wet outers.
  10. Robin

    Robin Thru Hiker

    I’m going for counselling after those pictures :drool:

    What’s Alpha like for smell resistance?
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  11. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I've found it surprising odour resistant, folk around me, may have a different opinion :confuseded:?
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  12. Robin

    Robin Thru Hiker

    First impressions of the Paradox are good. Seems to be similar warmth to the Patagonia R1 but nicer feels against the skin. Sleeves are a little long. Won’t be able to test it properly until February.
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  13. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    I concur with Mole. Chucked them all in the washing machine (when the moggie starts to show uncalled for interest in your armpits, you know it's time). Dragging them out, after the spin, the Alpha Direct 120 panels on the Flash felt pretty much completely dry, but was let down by the unpleasantly damp stretch panels. The Power Grid™ on the Montane Allez was not as damp as the stretch panels on the Flash, and would have been tolerable to pull straight on.

    Adds more impetus for me DIY'ing my own (as I don't see anyone selling a 100% Alpha Direct garment). Don't see any reason they need the stretch panels other than wear resistance, and for a slim fit (which I believe has more to do with fashion than function). I reckon I could make a couple of half zip tops from 3 yards of Alpha Direct90, to function as a either baselayer, or mid (or both together).

    In addition to Discovery Trekking Outfitters, there is Mill Direct Textiles, but they only sell full rolls (their sister company MillYardage hasn't got it on their books ATM).
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  14. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

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  15. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Yeah, the whole norrona Lofoten Alpha raw (needs a shorter name) dries very quickly. The power grid section dries a slightly slower but not to the point I'm disappointed in any way with it.
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  16. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    If definitely ordering, pm me Paul?;)
  17. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    I agree: the whole thing dries pretty fast.

    It’s a amazing piece of clothing; wondering if it will be overkill on the CWT late april:D
  18. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    :rolleyes: depends how many of those you have already bought you take with you....
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  19. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I still say my Deviator is the best Alpha garment in my arsenal....a great blend of alpha, and power grid... Works across a good spectrum of temps.
  20. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    I'm 90% sure I'll have mine. It's regulates well enough that it'll be fine imo. If we're forecast really warm weather I may take my haglofs LIM powerdry hoody instead but the chances of that are slim.
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  21. slovhike

    slovhike Section Hiker

    Would be in for a yard of the fabric if ordering @Gadget a DIY vest should be easy project
  22. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    I shall look into it.
    It's a bit galling paying retail $17/m (before shipping and import) when you see that Mill Direct sell 50m rolls wholesale for $4/m.
    The fly in the ointment being they have a minimum order of $1000 !!
  23. slovhike

    slovhike Section Hiker

  24. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    I just wanna check, @Mole sowed a seed of doubt.
    You can't use Alpha as a plain fabric? Not strong enough on its own? Hence the development of Alpha Direct?
    (as used in the Rab Flash and Freak)
  25. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    From Polartec's website:
    "Polartec® Alpha® Direct is an evolution of original Alpha® technology that eliminates the need for a backing fabric to create an enclosed fabric package."
    So I think you need Alpha Direct.
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2019

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