Quilt fixing. Why?

Do you connect your quilt to your mat?

  • Never

    Votes: 18 56.3%

  • Sometimes

    Votes: 11 34.4%

  • Always

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • One side only

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Total voters
    32
ZenTrekker

ZenTrekker

Section Hiker
Mole said:
Nah. Under the mat is definitely madness :p:angelic:
Well, in the OP, I did describe the OM post as "another rant" and talk about its subject matter in the final sentence. Maybe could have been clearer.

I'm not sure if I can add "one side only" as an option to the survey . I'll try. Or maybe @Shewie can do it?
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Don't worry, I only complete surveys if I'm pais up front :)
 
theoctagon

theoctagon

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WilliamC said:
Our twin Zpacks quilt we connect at the centre of the head end (i.e. between our necks) to stop a draft getting in between the two of us when we move but never the sides. The EE Accomplice has a neck baffle (as does the new version of the Zpacks twin) so we never have to connect that at all.

Our winter synthetic overquilt attaches directly to the down quilt under it.
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Show off ;)

Mine will soon do the same when I add a few Kam snaps
 
Clare

Clare

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Mole said:
That's what I don't get. If the quilt is attached to the mat, for me that would be more restricting than a bag I can move around/sit up in etc. I tried it in the early days of using mine and found it a PITA.

I can understand tying down in with a hefty winter quilt like the thicker katabatic type. But really, seems the main reason for one like that is to save weight as many other advantages are lost due to the need to attach.
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well it is clipped to elastic, for one thing, so it's not rigid. Second thing, it's really easy to undo the toggle. Or so I imagine, i haven't done it yet. I'm off to Bordeaux again on Monday and hope to get a weekend in the Landes Parc so I'll try it then.
 
Padstowe

Padstowe

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Personally I prefer a closed (high) footbox, I have a PHD summer quilt that is closed to just below the buttocks where it has an internal shock cord running round it that you can cinch up. I like this & would even prefer if it was enclosed the whole way up to the waist as sometimes I kinda duck down into it & cinch it round the waist loosely & with the top half loose I find it very comfy, if just maybe a tad restricting in the legs cause its not meant to be pulled so high. But I'd love a quilt built for this way of using.
For me the reason for a quilt is more to do with wriggle room at the shoulders & being able to pop me arms out & about kinda craic, the bottom half I quite like being enclosed as long as I can move me legs a bit inside.
 
Shewie

Shewie

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Staff member
Mole said:
Nah. Under the mat is definitely madness :p:angelic:
Well, in the OP, I did describe the OM post as "another rant" and talk about its subject matter in the final sentence. Maybe could have been clearer.

I'm not sure if I can add "one side only" as an option to the survey . I'll try. Or maybe @Shewie can do it?
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Done, I didn't think I could add any more options but it looks like I can
 
Fair Weather Camper

Fair Weather Camper

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When did I say I didn't like your chair @Clare ..?
I liked it first, on the thread, didn't i...?

And there isn't a 'triple like option as far as I know..
Maybe ask Shewie?


OK Claire, I reeeelly, reeeelly, reeeelly like your chair, in fact, I adore it with fluffy pink knobs on..

And shiny nipple tassels too, if that helps :geek:?

Crivens, it's hard work keeping everyone happy, isn't it :confuseded:
 
Enzo

Enzo

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Is anyone else tempted to put a velcro fastened placket in the centre of theirs, so that they can wear it as a poncho?

I did that to my mk1 over quilt but never used it like a poncho before going to my mk2. Makes sense if your socializing at night, saves bringing a puffy. But then you can sleep in a puffy so perhaps the weight saving are illusory.
 
Dave V

Dave V

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The first time I took my 350 out I used the shock cord provided and found it a little annoying. I then lengthened it but ended up simply not using it.

The quilt I made recently has toggles and loops on the side for straps but for the five nights I’ve used it, I’ve not used them.
I find using the quilt as a blanket mush more comfy for me, freedom to move arms and legs about give me much better sleep.
 
FOX160

FOX160

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The only time I found it necessary to use the fixings was when I was on a slight slope
and the mat kept sliding down and found myself partly on the cold floor, apart from that no.
 
Mole

Mole

Thru Hiker
Well, there are plenty of pillow threads already.

However:p:

I don't find fixing a pillow to the mat useful. It's not how I sleep, and my mat/the position of myself upon it aren't always arranged optimally within the shelter due to terrain/slope to make a fixed pillow work.

The several air pillows I've tried are either too small, too thin , puncture/leak, too heavy...

I went back to a stuffed ( buff covered) drybag as a main pillow. I just find it more comfy than an air pillow. I take the clothes I need for camp in the coolest temperature I could expect to encounter. On multidays this is variable due to weather or camping at different altitudes; so I'll often have a layer spare to stuff for pillow, or at minimum, waterproofs/mitts (and if wet I've turned a drybag inside out before).

I do sometimes on longer trips, take a tiny 40g mammut air pillow which is only useful as a sleep pillow inside a hooded bag, but good as an extra support layer for reading in bed.
 
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Whiteburn

Whiteburn

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Everyone to there own; w​
hen it's cold (<5 - 6C) I like to clip off the quilt (Cumulus 250) to the edges of the mat, I roll back & forth during the night so it holds the quilt in place.
 
Dave V

Dave V

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Dave Vaughan said:
The first time I took my 350 out I used the shock cord provided and found it a little annoying. I then lengthened it but ended up simply not using it.

The quilt I made recently has toggles and loops on the side for straps but for the five nights I’ve used it, I’ve not used them.
I find using the quilt as a blanket mush more comfy for me, freedom to move arms and legs about give me much better sleep.
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I should add that I still look for ways of fixing to the pad, just in case I ever need to
 
ZenTrekker

ZenTrekker

Section Hiker
Mole said:
Well, there are plenty of pillow threads already.

However:p:

I don't find fixing a pillow to the mat useful. It's not how I sleep, and my mat/the position of myself upon it aren't always arranged optimally within the shelter due to terrain/slope to make a fixed pillow work.

The several air pillows I've tried are either too small, too thin , puncture/leak, too heavy...

I went back to a stuffed ( buff covered) drybag as a main pillow. I just find it more comfy than an air pillow. I take the clothes I need for camp in the coolest temperature I could expect to encounter. On multidays this is variable due to weather or camping at different altitudes; so I'll often have a layer spare to stuff for pillow, or at minimum, waterproofs/mitts (and if wet I've turned a drybag inside out before).

I do sometimes on longer trips, take a tiny 40g mammut air pillow which is only useful as a sleep pillow inside a hooded bag, but good as an extra support layer for reading in bed.
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I agree with all of that @Mole. I just bought a Mammut 40 gram air-pillow and I stick it on top go my rucksack. I was using a 38 gram air-pillow from Poundland, very comfortable with a nice velvety finish. It cost me er . . . . . £1 but the valves are unreliable, I've had 2 go on me.

I'm thinking of using one of those netting bags that go in the washing machine, (they are used for delicates, bras etc.). I thought I could slip it over the top of the sleeping mat and then stuff the pillow inside. Management has a few lying around I could pinch but I worry about getting caught!
 
Clare

Clare

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why not use the spécial @ZenTrekker elastic with button holes system at the head end with toggles sewn to the side of the pillow?

Slightly related I noticed that @tom's packlist for Mallorca included foil helium balloons as a pillow, for about 9g. I thought one of the dog shaped ones, perhaps the daschund, would be a good shape, if the tail doesn't tickle in the night and become annoying.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Animal-A...hash=item3f972591a4:m:mqs-aohqgrQdAOdPMeink8A

Alternatively, a foil wine bag. Requirement to finish the wine before blowing up the bag and retiring to bed.
 
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ZenTrekker

ZenTrekker

Section Hiker
Clare said:
why not use the spécial @ZenTrekker elastic with button holes system at the head end with toggles sewn to the side of the pillow?

I had thought about using toggles @Clare but one of the issues I have is that I use a short mat. If I fix the pillow to the mat, I have less mat to lie on! Also my mat is tapered at the top and the elastic will probably ping off anyway.
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Clare

Clare

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The guy in your video stitched the elastic to the mat, which is probably what I'll do although a bit nervous of wrecking the mat I must admit. Doesn't help with shortness though.
 
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