TGC Challenge 2015- Potential Kit List

Discussion in 'Kit Lists' started by kiltedpict, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter

    Here we go then, for your perusal and comments.
    Ok, I know I've not weighed anything yet but might get round to it someday..


    Carry:
    Montane Grand Tour 55
    OMM chest pouch
    Pacer Poles

    Shelter/sleeping:
    Scarp 1 tent
    OR
    Trailstar, Tyvek Ground sheet and custom bug bivi (most likely option)

    Pegs- Various styles
    PHD Custom sleeping Bag
    Exped SynMat UL 7M
    Exped Pillow
    Tiny Tent light
    Light Weight Merino top
    As Tucas Down Socks
    Sit mat / (DuoMat if Trailstar)
    Microfiber cloth

    Cooking:
    Kovea Spider stove
    Disposable lighter
    MSR Titan Kettle
    Windshield
    100 gas can
    Folding kuska
    Homemade cosy (still to make)
    Long Handled spoon
    Fold-Flat plate
    Lexan Hip Flask
    Swiss Fork & Knife

    Hydration:
    Travel Tap with filter
    Collapsible bottle


    Clothes- Wearing:
    Boxers
    Socks thick & thin (swear by this- no blisters on TGOC13)
    Medium Weight Merino top
    Hagloffs trousers
    Trail Shoes
    Scree / ankle gaiters

    Clothes- Spare:
    Boxers x 1
    Socks x 1 pr thin & thick
    Keen sandals OR HiTek Zuuks (£35 ish)


    Waterproofs/insulation:
    Hagloffs waterproof trousers
    Mountain Hardwear Paclite jacket
    Waterproof mitts
    Seal Skin Socks
    Windproof top
    Icebreaker beanie or Alpine hat (depending on forecast nearer the time)
    Thin gloves
    Buff
    Montane prism jacket / equivalent (£90-£120)
    Montane Prism Trousers (£90)
    Down gillet / thin jacket (New Alpkit Filoment probably, cost unknown)


    Personal/Safety:
    Maps- Custom printed on waterproof paper
    Compass
    Satmap Active 10 GPS (looking into using Viewranger on iPhone)
    Whistle
    Kindle
    iPhone and cable
    Earphones
    Ankar charger (heavy but worthwhile)
    Petzl e light
    Leatherman Micra
    Sunglasses
    Tilley Hat
    Camera (not sure on make / model- will be a birthday pressie nearer the time)
    Paracord / Spare Guy line
    EDC Firestarter kit (size of shotgun cartridge with thermometer on top)


    Hygiene/FAK:
    Tooth brush and small paste
    Dr Bronners peppermint soap in small bottle
    LifeVenture Small pack towel (facecloth size)
    Deodorant
    Foot cream & Balm (in separate small film canisters)
    Foot Powder
    Custom First Aid Kit
    Sun cream (depending on forecast)
    Lip Balm
    Toilet Pack (blizzard stake, small vaseline, paper & lighter)

    Food... to be decided
  2. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Things I'd drop personally ..

    As Tucas Down Socks
    Fold-Flat plate
    Travel Tap with filter
    Thin gloves
    Kindle
    Leatherman Micra

    Two or three hats?
    Prism and down top?

    Good looking list though mate, if you're happy with it then it looks a nice load
  3. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter

    Well, I wore both the beanie and the Tilley last time- The beanie was very useful over the corryairrac pass when it was snowing, but I guess i could replace it with the buff and / a silk balaclava...

    I know about the prism and down jacket but I sleep really cold now for some reason (when I'm out anyways), and if the prism is soaked (i sweat buckets without a waterproof, let alone with one oon!), I'm not wanting to wear it in my sleeping bag- i did think about a down gillet instead, but might reduce its usefulness outwith the TGO....

    The kindle is a must I think- I wake between 5 and 6 each morning and my walking partner Scott struggles to get up before 10! ! have a lot of tent time and the kindle saved me getting seriously p!ssed off with him!!

    Cheers though, all worth considering and re-considering!
  4. EM - Ross

    EM - Ross Thru Hiker

    It's down to the individual of course & that's a list of canny enough kit!

    For a trip of that length, assuming this was my kit, I'd make the following changes myself.

    Shelter/sleeping:
    Exped SynMat UL 7M - replace with CCF
    Exped Pillow - remove
    Tiny Tent light - remove. Winter only
    As Tucas Down Socks. Remove - winter only, if then.
    Sit mat / (DuoMat if Trailstar) - Remove - sit on pack.

    Cooking:
    Folding kuska - 'probably' something bigger/lighter.
    Fold-Flat plate - remove
    Lexan Hip Flask - remove
    Swiss Fork & Knife - remove

    Hydration:
    Travel Tap with filter - remove

    Clothes- Spare:
    Keen sandals OR HiTek Zuuks (£35 ish) - tend toward remove or lighter.


    Waterproofs/insulation:
    Montane Prism Trousers (£90) - remove

    Personal/Safety:
    Satmap Active 10 GPS (looking into using Viewranger on iPhone) - remove - go with Viewranger on phone
    Kindle - remove
    Earphones - remove
    Ankar charger (heavy but worthwhile) - remove.
    EDC Firestarter kit (size of shotgun cartridge with thermometer on top) - remove
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2014
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  5. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter

    I think the most weight saving over last time will be with food.. seriously over-estimated how much I would eat and ended up giving a lot of it to my wife when she appeared in Newtonmore to swap my inner tent for a bivibag (my duomid a hadn't been seam sealed by previous owner and I got soaked in Ft Augustus when it sleeted all night!)
  6. EM - Ross

    EM - Ross Thru Hiker

    If the Prisms soaked - if you leave it on after you've stopped walking isn't it nearly or completely dry by the time you get in your bag? If not I'd wear it overnight to dry it off. If it was still wet enough to bother my bag I'd put my windproof on top & if warm enough only have bag up to my waist. Sort of thing I tend to do more in winter - especially with wet gloves etc - stick up next to skin.
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  7. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    you'll struggle to get lighter than the swedish army folding kuksa, takes a 500ml brew for 42g. Its my goto backpacking mug.

    id bin the satmap for sure, very heavy bit of kit for what it is. that will pay for your anker charger to keep the phone topped up.

    synmat would go in favour of a neoair xlite medium which saves 100g

    Paracord goes in favour of polyester coated dyneema - english braids or similar - lighter, stronger and just as grippy

    lexan hipflask would go in favour of roll up bottle (they are pretty though :))

    tyvek groundsheet would go in favour of polycro.

    id bin the plate too

    Tis your kit though and you know what works for you. Have a great time :)
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  8. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter


    Cheers Ross

    If im using the iPhone with view ranger I'll need to see if I can get away without the charger!! Earphones are a must though- I even need to listen to music at home- I just cant get to sleep if someone is snoring!!

    The kuska weighs nowt, but took an xMug last time so might take that again (it just tends to retain the taste of whatever was last in it).

    The travel tap is my water bottle & thought the filter would be sensible when in the east / agricultural areas when its not advisable to fill up without some form of purification?

    Flat plat I used a lot as a cutting board for chorizo, cheese etc last time (like fresh frood when I can get it, and I will die before i go away without a decent single malt so the hipflask stays too- its a holiday for me after all, not an extreme test of uncomfortable endurance!! ;)

    As for the CCF- nah, my days of them are long gone so for me, the Exped stays too!

    Yeah, could drop the fire starting supplies.


    I'ts all about balancing what I need/want against spending as little money as possible- the Prisms probably wont make it!
  9. EM - Ross

    EM - Ross Thru Hiker

    I'll not! ;)

    I've not seen kuksa's that big but I get just over 500ml in my mug at 20g. I'm not a gram weeny as some of my kit is heavy by today's standard but by taking less & saving weight with some items my overall weight ain't too bad.
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  10. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter

    To be honest Ross, I havent worn a prism so I dont know how well it dries out.. might be that your idea works well enough. I need to get one I think!.

    Must look at Polycro Paul.. I keep forgetting about that stuff, cheers

    Magic folks, lots of great ideas
  11. EM - Ross

    EM - Ross Thru Hiker

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    Surprisingly hard wearing mug. On my 2nd after I stood on first one. Was still usable though. Used to keep cone, fuel, grip, lighter, spoon, syringe etc in it when I was a cone user.
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  12. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    fair play i just like something a little more refined :)

    i have been known to use a costa cup on occassion but they leak after a while
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  13. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Forget the spare shoes; you've seal skins for wearing with the wet trail shoes to the pub, carry a couple of plastic bags for wearing over the tent socks when you need to go to the men's room (or carry a pee bottle)

    Switch the symat for a Neoair Xlite short (less than 1/2 the weight)

    Personally I ditch the Prism jacket & trousers; I'll carry a base layer & leggings for sleeping in which I'll wear during the evening if chilly + a Cumulus down jacket.

    Fork & knife, as well as a spoon, ??? If it can't be eaten with a spoon it doesn't get carried
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  14. kiltedpict

    kiltedpict Ultralighter

    Good point about the seal skins and not needing spare footwear, although I was glad of my Keens on a couple occasions last time to give my feet a break and a breather on road walks

    I think my current mat is damn near perfect- can't get on with anything less than full length- I have a Peak Elite AC short which I used once only, although I liked the larger tubes along the sides..nice idea.

    The knife and fork might well get ditched but they are feather light ones (pretty nice actually, Bob stocks them at BPL) and handy for when we get fresh food- I wouldn't be able to tell if they were in the bag or not.

    Lots to think about, especially the insulation, and I'm going to stick with icebreaker leggings and top for sleeping / in camp warmth.

    Cheers folks
  15. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I was glad of a change of footwear on the CWT Stuart, it's just nice to have something different to put your feet into. Especially with the Vivos, they're pretty much slippers

    I didn't bother on the TGO and was mighty jealous of my mate with his knock off Crocs
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  16. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Nothing much to add re. 'stripping the list down'.

    I don't take footwear changes. I take the insoles out of my shoes to air at the end of the day and then put the shoes back on...I'm almost convinced they are different footwear. Barefoot is nice too.

    I do take 55g river-crossers on occasion, but will only wear them for that.
  17. Hedley Heap

    Hedley Heap Section Hiker

    River crossing shoes, what do people wear apart from taking your socks off and taking out the insoles and crocs of cause?
    Heard of using ultralight track running shoes but wouldn't know which ones to get.
  18. Hedley Heap

    Hedley Heap Section Hiker

  19. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    These....I have a womens foot :D
  20. Hedley Heap

    Hedley Heap Section Hiker

    They're a bit Right said Fred for me.
  21. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I wear trail running shoes, Innov8's or Salamon usually, I just wade straight through the rivers, most of the water drains in the first five minutes then the heat from your feet dries the rest out. I sometimes even roll up my trouser legs if I remember :)

    At camp the shoes come off, insoles out, I'll either put them to one side and put my Vivos on, or if I don't carry those I just put on a pair of short SealSkinz and put the wet/damp shoes back. For weekend or three/four dayers I just go with the SealSkinz, if it's a longer trip and there's more miles to cover day in day out, the change of footwear is worth the 200g hit.
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  22. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Footophobe
  23. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    What about the other one? :)
  24. Hedley Heap

    Hedley Heap Section Hiker

    I wager that foot hasn't...........
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  25. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Moderator Staff Member

    What happens when she wants it back?

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