The perfect shirt

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Stu Sibley, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. Stu Sibley

    Stu Sibley Summit Camper

    I spent a very sweaty day yesterday in a craghoppers kiwi https://www.craghoppers.com/kiwi-long-sleeved-shirt-faded-indigo/

    Has anyone come across their (elusive) perfect shirt? I am looking for the holy trinity of insect protection, sun protection and breathability/wicking. Odour resistance would also be great (actually the kiwi shirt seems good for this). Mont bell looks good but hard to find stockists to try them on and no insect protection technology
  2. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

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  3. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    If it's cooling you want then any cotton dress shirt should do, just treat it with permethrin and you're good to go :thumbsup:

    Breathable is not that good when you want to keep cool, better to hold onto each drop of sweat as long as you can.
    If you can wear lots of very thin baggy cotton layers (i can't) it's better still as each layer evaporates each drop of sweat a few times.
    Very efficient sweat/water management, that's why you'll find it being used in most hot middle eastern countries

    I wear Nike dri-fit for most activities i do (cycling, MTB, running, hiking), once the temps start creeping over 30c here though (Greece) it's cotton i use 100% of the time.
  4. Stu Sibley

    Stu Sibley Summit Camper

    That's interesting, I have always thought to avoid cotton because of the long drying times, odour issues and general clinginess, I know that when it is hot in Milan I prefer to wear linen - but I can see how embracing the sweat to cool down would be efficient. In the craghoopers shirt mentioned above it did have a very close feel, making me sweat more than I would with a thinner lighter material
  5. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    I struggle with cotton too when I'm sweating, the straight jacket feeling of non-stretchy fabric stuck to my skin with sweat isn't pleasant. When it's sweaty, having some stretch is a boon.

    FWIW, I'd like to try a stretchy hooded linen hoody. Linen seems to be far comfier than cotton in the heat.
  6. Stu Sibley

    Stu Sibley Summit Camper

    Looks like Klattermusen have some technical linen products too which could be great
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  7. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Linen is good in hot countries.
    Contrary to Gixer, I go for breathable. Sweating doesn't cool you, evaporating sweat does, which is why hot, humid weather is so awful. A breathable baggy shirt (OR Echo and Rab Interval are my choices) that lets the breeze get through to your sweat is what I prefer.
  8. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Their linen T-shirts are Vile. :D

    Swedish product names don't always translate well :)
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  9. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I can :thumbsup: linen as the best for keeping cool. I have an old (~100yrs) linen 'shift' I use to sleep in the heat (hols) - it's by far the best sleepwear in very hot climates.
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  10. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Make more sense if Klattermusen made a long sleeved lightweight linen shirt - when it's that hot I want sun protection too.
    I don't wear short sleeves when on the hills in hot sunny weather - I'd fry.
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  11. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    £140 for a shirt? I'll take the sunburn!
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  12. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    and the skin cancer ……. what price ????
  13. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

    @Stu Sibley I am with @WilliamC regarding the shirts...OR echo or Rab Interval is what I use most 3seasons...they dry out fast even with body heat only...also cheap at start fitness at the moment...rab intervals..
  14. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I think you know that's not what I was saying, you can buy a shirt that'll do for a tenner, just struggling to see how a shirt could be 14 times better. I don't know as I've not had one. At sale price its not far off what hi tec shirts go for mind. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the heat so try and stay in the shade, not possible this year mind.
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  15. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I bought a couple of 2nd hand Rohan LS shirts for the Pyrenees.
    But an old 1980's cotton shirt I've been using in UK this summer is probably cooler, and as the weave is quite tight - better UV protection too
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  16. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

    For more smart look (not the sport T shirt) I was wearing dress polycotton dress shirt and was cool enough in the summer...its button up so you can vent and cheap at C&A...
  17. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I Googled Rab Interval earlier to check I'd got the name right and was amazed to find Turkish results come up. I've never seen Rab in Turkey (people find the name on our shirts funny as it is one of the names of God for Muslims). What's more, the long and short sleeved shirts are selling for between £16 and £18. Unfortunately, they don't have the zipped version which I prefer.
  18. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Can't say as i've ever noticed or been bothered about cotton being clingy.
    Which is odd cause i'm a bit weird about tight clothes usually.

    It hate summers and hot weather, but the good thing living here is that you know it's going to be about 30c for at least 3 months, so you just embrace the sweat as there isn't really much of an alternative.

    It's like when i'm working or working on cars/bikes, i pull a funny face when i get my clean hands dirty for the first time, once i'm dirty though it doesn't bother me at all.

    I've tried breathable stuff in summer but just "feel" hotter, i say "feel" cause it's really only about feel, i've never measured my body temps.

    If i'm on a day hike, run, ride then i'll chuck a bottle of water in the freezer the night before.
    It's usually a solid block of ice in the morning, i'll then put it in my pack as close top my back as i can.

    Can't drink cold water as it gives me stomach cramps, but as it defrosts i'll pour it over my head and neck (usually wearing a snood)
    The ideal that works for me is to be wet through from head to waist.

    Bear in mind that even doing that my clothing, hat and snood usually dries out within 15mins even after pouring water on em.

    Only other precaution i take is to make up a bit of a sports drink in a bottle and take that with me.
    Bit of salt, baking soda, mixed with 50/50 OJ and water

    Can't drink it all the time, so usually i'll just take the occasional swig from this, but drink mainly just normal water from my hydration bladder.

    Only thing i've not found a solution i'm 100% happy with is a hat
    Tried caps, ears burn
    Tried wide brimmed hats, too floppy for running in
    Tried snoods and bandanas, no shade
    Got a OR sun hat thing with some fabric that droops behind your head and over your ears, great for the shade it offers, but my head feels like a boil in the bag chicken wearing it
    The search continues
  19. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Sunday Afternoons Visor and OR Echo Hoody ;)
  20. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    I'm Fair haired and nearly bald so a visor is no good for me, tried one with a buff thing, but it was warmer than any of my hats

    Hoody might work though :thumbsup:
  21. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    I've got on well with both the Craghopper & Mountain Warehouse Nosi-life shirts. Yeah when it's 35C & blistering sun you get sweaty BUT the big thing for me is the sun protection factor for places like the Pyrenees & the tight weave so that Scottish clegs can't get a bite.
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  22. Stu Sibley

    Stu Sibley Summit Camper

    That's why I have tried to move off of sports shirts, bug and UV protection but not found the right balance yet
  23. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Visor AND Outdoor Research Echo Hoody, Not Visor and/or Hoody :)
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  24. slovhike

    slovhike Thru Hiker

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  25. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I use arcteryx phase SL tops in the winter, but checking they don't state SPF so I guess they are low, unlike the rab.
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