Who uses a quilt?

Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by gixer, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    With hindsight 250 was the way to go. I could get away with 150g fill in the hammock as i have a 20f under quilt but 250 will be better on the ground and should cover most of what i do.
  2. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Froze my ass off on the early part of Saturday night. 270g fill quilt plus insulated mat. But my wet socks id left in porch were like hardboard when I retired at 10pm.
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  3. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Below zero with the Cumulus 250 the PJ's are usually supplemented by a fleece & on the odd occasion the down jacket.....but I'm a softy.
  4. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    im generally ok with 200g quilt in my bivy bag down to -5 with my golite down jacket and merino base layer. Be interesting to see if the cumulus will get me a little lower. I find a bivy adds quite a lot to my comfort
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  5. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    At -5C I much prefer the Panyam 600 inside the Duomid nest with a Synmat + 8mm CCF...........said I was a softie. :)
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  6. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I was wearing a Rab xenon and my Paramo Alta 2 over a baselayer and fleece!
  7. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    Ive as much blubber as your average seal though :D
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  8. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    That'd be pushing it for me probably but in my experience the 250 does a grand job of keeping my feet warm, which for me is half the battle won.
  9. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Moderator Staff Member

    All these warm sleepers. I think I'd need to start with the Cumulus 350. :)
  10. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    Ive always found the mat more important than weight of fill. My xlite is like lying on an electric blanket. One of the benefits of being chunky is i put out lots of heat that gets reflected back:D
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  11. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Would love to make a certain down bag I have into a quilt....I use often in this mode anyway and the hood is just a PITA.

    I'm a dullard at sewing so any suggestions who would make a good job of this for me...in the UK, if possible.

    If I chose to buy a Down Quilt instead it would be an EE Revelation as I prefer the longitudinal baffles, then I can move the down directly over my core.
    Don't like too much over feet and legs...too hot.

    Saw the workmanship on the EE Enigma in July on JMT and was impressed. This one has a sewn footboy tho'.

    Anyone got a Revelation.
    Have checked out blogs and most reviews.

    Cheaper to cut up my own tho'...............Or if anyone wants to buy my WM Ultralite, then I can buy a Revelation.
  12. Scotty Von Porkchop

    Scotty Von Porkchop Ultralighter

    You can't cut up a WM, sacrilegious! Though a quilt version well done would be amazing. I don't modify other people's gear unfortunately as any damage caused I may not be able to rectify.

    I agree with you on longitudinal baffles, I can't quite figure out why so few cottage makers do it that way?
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  13. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Ha,ha.....I knew I'd get a rousting for saying that or at the worst, get shot..:eek:.
    I put in my choices on the EE site for a WARM Revelation and fell out the chair....:arghh:.

    Buying Widu's synthetic Prodigy...it's FAB.....Imagine that in down...mmmmm.

    I've just googled Mountaineering Designs In Grange-Over-Sands in Cumbria.
    They would charge £155 for something like this...possibly. :eek:
    Used them to clean bags before...pleased with results.
    That's a bit steep to remove a hood and just sew up again. Could put that money to better use.

    I still have my PHD bag for Winter use.
    I have the PHD vest and jacket with hood to use in the bags.
    More versatile as I have been taking the Down layers anyway, on trips out and about.

    I did notice that the Revelation seems to have some fixed baffles in the footboy area tho'.

    Scotty, bet you'd make a better job than me...You don't make mistakes, do you???;)
  14. Scotty Von Porkchop

    Scotty Von Porkchop Ultralighter

    If I had a gun

    I definitely make mistakes but prior to filing with down the costs aren't too bad.
    £155 seems pricey but I suspect that is to cover insurance as it's often difficult to communicate exactly what you want over emails. I know I've made enough quilts that I've swapped out for another as the customer over compensated somewhere and it's ended up big or small somewhere. Not a problem if it's a fairly common design or colour but once you're adjusting other kit I imagine it's a minefield.

    Wouldn't it just br better to flog the WM on here or ebay and buy the fresh made quilt?
  15. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

  16. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Just to update this.

    My KG flex passed with flying colours.
    Saw temps around 5c if memory serves and a bit windy, was a bit cold at first but i tightened up the side clips a noggin and was fine after.

    No drafts, no cold spots, just a nice warm nights sleep.

    Was nice waking up with the quilt in the position it was when i nodded off, as usually i wake up with my sleeping bag wrapping around me.

    Also used it for our trip across Europe, as the temps got warmer i just opened it up and used it as a blanket.

    All in i'm chuffed to ****** with it :)

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  17. Creamy

    Creamy Section Hiker

    Seen quite a lot of quilts on trail this yr LG. Zero day and catching up before trying to speed up and push thru n. California into oregon within next 10 days or so.
    Enlightenedequipment seem to look well made quilts. You should have tried to bring one back perhaps.
    Saw one being used with the owner using as a body wrap very effective by looks and no puffy jacket carried. However???

    Not best idea as I witnessed in bear country the food smells all over your sleeping system

    Will post soon

    Oh yeah if I can get a decent quilt sorted or ordered today will use until temps drop.
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  18. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Hi Creamy....yep, saw EE's quilts.
    Saw the Enigma.
    Love the longitudinal baffles. Revelation on my wish list...love it.
    Bought Widu's Prodigy. Bargain....Thanks Widu.
    Used last night on Blake Fell....Toasty warm.
    Cold and windy with low cloud...good test for it....Ten out of ten.
    Big decision to make a quilt out of my WM bag or sell and buy a Revelation.
    Dream on.....:rolleyes:
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  19. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    If you paid near top whack for your Ultralite and with it being the short you may have dilemmas on recouping your outlay trying to sell it.
    But I can't get my head around chopping up a Western Mountaineering bag.
  20. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Didn't pay top, 'whack'.
    This bag gets used 3 seasons, 99%time opened up fully as a quilt.
    Hood becomes PITA.
    PHD bag used in Winter when I need a hood.
    So, what's the point of the hood if not used.
    What's the point of paying Enlightened Equipment over £300 plus for a Revelation and wait 8 weeks when the Ultralite does what I want.
    I won't get enough if I sell but the most this will cost to do will be £50.
    Even less if my friendly, experienced Seamstress lady gets her hands on it.

    One has to think outside the box mus'nt one.
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  21. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    You know best :) I just assumed you must have paid close to the £360 shop value.
  22. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I like the idea of quilts...but as my Zpacks 20 is 'essentially' a quilt and I mostly use it as such - for me it is the best of both worlds.

    My WM Ultralite has been unused since I got the ZPacks.
  23. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Interesting to read Gixers success with the Katabatics quilt. I tend to sleep on right side, left side, back, repeat through night and quite often find the hood on the top of my face, zip underneath me etc. For this reason I've always excluded quilts from consideration so was interested to hear that a quilt had solved Gixers similar problems.

    Any other wrigglers out there find a quilt is not an issue in this respect?

    I'm looking at something with comfort to -7C so I'm conscious of icy draughts.
  24. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I change positions like that too.
    Just like with the duvet at home in bed, with a quilt, I mostly move under it rather than taking it with me. But I try to do that within my sleeping bag too and mostly succeed. Takes effort - using a quilt helped train myself into the unconscious habit. Stops getting cold back/bum when you expose compressed down as you roll.

    Dunno about a simple quilt that low a temp for me. I like an enclosed bag with hood once it gets much colder than freezing.
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  25. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    What surprised me was just how warm it was at the sides after i'd faffed with the side strap things

    With my sleeping bags i've found that as i toss and turn the area of the bag that's underneath me isn't constant.
    So as i twist and turn i have cold spots on the area of the bag that i was just laying on.

    For example, lets say i was laying on my back, but then turned over onto my left side, because the sleeping bag rotated with me the area that i was laying on is now insulating my left kidney area.

    Not always but at certain times, i've felt the cold in that spot.

    Always figured that because i'd been laying on the down it would take a min or 2 to loft again before it started offering the required insulation.

    Because you never lay on the sides of the quilt it was a consistent even amount of insulation during the night.

    Wasn't expecting that
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