Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Mox, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    Hi, at the mo I have a neoair xlite, ~ 25". Once I've sold it, I'm still trying to figure out the protocols, I need something wider. I'm looking at the Klymit V luxe ~ 30".

    Can anyone suggest any alternatives to the V?

  2. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    I've been using a sts ul insulated. It's just over 25" (64cm), but feels wider than the xlite as the edges don't collapse like on the xlite. Don't have experience of any others.
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  3. Anders Hansen

    Anders Hansen Summit Camper

    I have the exped Synmat UL LW. The sidebaffles are higher then the center ones. I love it. A little heavy at 600 gr
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  4. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    Both sound interesting, thanks, be nice if there was somewhere I could go to compare them. I'm down sarf if anyone's got any suggestions.
  5. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    There’s also the xlite large. I’ve just got the Big Agnes axl wide. It’s massive and has side baffles and quilting which is much more comfortable than the roll off feeling of the neo-air. But although on paper it’s really thick it actually feels thin and bottoms out. I’m not sure yet if it’s worth it although i totally love the width.
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  6. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    Yeah, unfortunately, I do have the large but I just can't get comfortable on it. I've tried various inflation levels as well. It should be noted that I'm a side sleeper who moves around a bit. Which raises the point, no, I'm not looking for a double bed! :) I've had a look at the specs for the Big Agnes axl wide, however, that comes in at 25" as well. I suspect that I need to go some place where I can try them all out as peoples mentions of side baffles is interesting and may help.
  7. DuneElliot

    DuneElliot Ultralighter

    I don't have the Klymit V Luxe but I do have the Static V Insulated Lite and love it. I've tried pads with vertical and horizonatal baffles but prefer my Klmyit. It takes a little getting used to the different baffle design but I sleep well with mine. I am a side and stomach sleeper
  8. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    I think if you value good sleep the static v lux is a great mat. It fills my khufu half inner perfectly. Bit on the heavy side but very easy to cut down the length and reseal to shave some weight (vids on youtube). Second hand (no longer made) and rare as rocking horse is the GG airbeam XL. its my goto mat coupled with a 3mm pad under.
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  9. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    When my Airbeam sleeper XL eventually dies, I really don't know what to replace it with...it's exceptional. 30 inches wide when inflated... 450 g, 3 inches thick tapered and has given me 4 years and around 500 nights of great sleep. Side, belly, back, legs akimbo, it's never ever been found sub-par. It even works well in a hammock.

    The only mat that piques my interest as a replacement is the Klymit Inertia X-wave, V-luxe and Sea to Summit Ultralight large.

    The V-luxe is in the lead as replacement....quite a bit heavier though. I don't think I'd iron it, the drop off at the foot end would be noticable.
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  10. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    OK, so I now have GG Airbeam XL lust, thanks guys...

    But seriously, useful comments all.
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  11. Charles42

    Charles42 Trail Blazer

    Have a look at the Nemo ones on ULOG. Good reviews and the sides don't collapse like the Neoairs
  12. oreocereus

    oreocereus Ultralighter

    @Mole what did you end up doing here? I'm curious as to how much difference the baffle design makes vs width.

    I've found the regular Neo-air too narrow as well, despite having fond memories of my prior Kylmit UL pad being comfortable. Unsure if time has made the memories fond, or if the baffle design made it a lot easier to sleep with. I can go up to the wide Neo-air and still be lighter than the Kylmit, but it's a fair bit of investment if the issue persists.
  13. snow

    snow Summit Camper

    FWIW I haven't yet slept out with my large xlite but testing it on the floor its a completely different feeling (compared to a regular). Maybe you can go try one out at a store?
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  14. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Think you mean Mox?

    But, I moved from Klymit Static V2 to a Neoair Xlite SV Max (same weight) last summer. I wasn't intending to go back to regular width as I'd borrowed a regular xlite before and didn't like my hands falling off (I back sleep like a corpse much of the time -and often use a quilt in summer). But, the Max version is not tapered like the standard regular Xlite, and the full even width seems to make enough difference for me. I also went for the SV (speed valve) version. For me, the 100g increase from a regular Xlite is more than made up for by the speed of inflation and deflation. I've used @Fair Weather Camper 's Neoair Large for a couple trips, and though it's width is luxurious, the time and work taken for it's inflation and even much more so, it's deflation and packing, seriously irritated me. (First world problems!:chicken:)
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
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  15. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    I have the Klymit insulated Vlite Wide and really like it, especially as I am a stomach sleeper.
    But I am looking for a lighter 3 season wide mat for myself too.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
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  16. oreocereus

    oreocereus Ultralighter

    Limited stores round here, they only have some budget options and self-inflating last I checked. But good call, will have a look next time i'm in town.
    Indeed, I meant mox. Oops.

    I also remember the inflation of the Klymit pad not being a big deal, but I indeed find the Therm-a-rest pretty exhausting to inflate. And I use the women's which is the smallest option before going to the short version. The taper is quite aggressive, so perhaps you're right in saying that contributes to it.

    Did you have any feelings about the baffle design?
  17. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Did you have any feelings about the baffle design?

    Not really. I find the x-lite more supportive and warmer than the static v2. I've had/used exped mats with longitudunal tubes. They were comfy enough too if I lay still.
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  18. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    What did I do? Not a lot to be honest. I've decided to train/force myself to have another go with the xlite. I've been cowering in my cave over this god forsaken winter looking forward to the return of the sun so I can get out and JFDI. I've come across references to other people feeling the same way but by sucking it up for a few days they were able to convince thier bodies that it was doable. Perhaps in my dotage I'm kidding myself but I'm going to give it another go.
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