Waterproof trousers advice

Jim_Parkin

Ultralighter
Think the poncho would be a problem over here with stile/wire fences and certain terrain maybe a bit hazardous
to climb over so I’ve gone for the https://www.outdoorgb.com/p/Berghaus_Paclite_Mens_Gore-Tex_Overtrousers/?s=10966&tc=7614&sc=10724 at a pretty good price.
Thank you everyone for your help and advice.
I have a modification.

You could sort of hitch up the middle bit of the poncho between your legs to improve your ability to move and probably its protection from the rain.

Maybe even sew it all along the legs :bag:
 

Jim_Parkin

Ultralighter
Actually I have another secondhand vote for paclites. My eldest daughter likes them. I often still use paramo in the winter or when it's cool. And marmot precip for other times, which are OK.
 

EM-Chiseller

Thru Hiker
I've some Norrona Dri1 pants on their way, and the wife has some Norrona Paclite pants... It's going to be interesting to see the difference in use as they are similar weight.
 

Stuart

Section Hiker
Nobody mentioned rain kilts yet.

I'm toying with the 3F UL one but also with making one.

I suspect the cost of buying fabric would be as much as just buying one unless someone's got some spare stuff lying about ….

I commute on my bike so something like Paclites sound like they are perhaps a better option than a kilt to use for both riding and walking.
 

Jim_Parkin

Ultralighter
Did you just say "Paramo"! :D;)

Yup... the cut might be more suitable for a pregnant panda with short arms, but if I'm out for a day and it's cool/cold with a chance of rain/sleet/wet snow it can be pretty comfortable for me. And I can even do star jumps whilst wearing it as in my profile picture.

Admittedly, it was about 25 years after buying the trousers that I worked out that a cheap pair of braces (from Next) improved them, but hey, I never pretend to be a fast learner.
 

EM-Chiseller

Thru Hiker
Nobody mentioned rain kilts yet.

I'm toying with the 3F UL one but also with making one.

I suspect the cost of buying fabric would be as much as just buying one unless someone's got some spare stuff lying about ….

I commute on my bike so something like Paclites sound like they are perhaps a better option than a kilt to use for both riding and walking.
Never leave fir the hills without mine lol... I use it as a wind kilt too IMG_20200105_142454.jpg
:D:D:biggrin:
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
Well it seems to boil down to two favourites - Berghaus Paclites and 3F UL Rain Kilt.
I have both. Tried the kilt once, used the Paclites thereafter.
Anyone want to buy my kilt?
 
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Dave V

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My Paclites are pretty old now but have lasted very well. Frayed at the ankles and one of the zips is a little ratty. TBH though I don't tend to use them now.

I have a pair of the new minimum and so far have found them pretty good. The zips need to be longer and they are not as waterproof but the gear I wear in summer drys pretty fast and I started wearing shorts more in summer last year so I don't often put them on. In winter I simply use Paramo.

Ref the 3F skirt. I had one and have recently given it away. Good bit of kit but I found that if the wind changed rain would be blown up or though the opening.

All that being said, if I could only have one, Paclites :p
 

Ian Barton

Summit Camper
Nobody mentioned rain kilts yet.

I commute on my bike so something like Paclites sound like they are perhaps a better option than a kilt to use for both riding and walking.

I use my Paclites on the bike. Easy to put on and breathable. For walking use, my only reservation would be they probably wouldn't survive if you used them while scrambling/climbing.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
I use my Paclites on the bike. Easy to put on and breathable. For walking use, my only reservation would be they probably wouldn't survive if you used them while scrambling/climbing.

True enough. But then surely that's going to be all most people will use them for most of the time.

If you're 'proper' rock climbing you probably shun such flappy and restrictive appurtenances in favour of those multicoloured athletic stretchy pants, and you're unlikely to be scrambling in conditions so wet that you'd need to be wearing them. If caught out on rocks in unforeseen conditions they'll hold together long enough to get you back to a shop for replacements.

'Creative types' who use them for things like sliding down stony slopes on their backside can hardly be surprised when they shred (yes, seen it).
 

JKM

Thru Hiker
Poncho works well as well

Especially when your hiking mates stop every 30mins for a 30mins break only 30mins after eating 2 breakfast's :whistling:

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Oi, I had to stop and feed our dog. You should appreciate that after all the moral support it gave you.
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craige

Thru Hiker
Ever the contrarian, I had Berghaus paclites and they leaked after a year or so of use. Maybe 50 days. I'd ripped a big hole in the backside falling down Sgurr nan Coireachan but repaired them and the repair was decent but they never recovered from the horrendous rain that day and leaked from then on. The estate manager reckoned the entire months worth of rain had fallen over 24 hours.

I always just wear a myog skirt now.
 
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