Odd Man
Thru Hiker
I went for the Windmaster because of the micro regulator (which the Amicus doesn't have) - should give a more consistent flame, particularly in cold conditions
As did I.
I went for the Windmaster because of the micro regulator (which the Amicus doesn't have) - should give a more consistent flame, particularly in cold conditions
I have got little first hand experience to judge the impact of a micro regulator, so that is interesting to hear (maybe I bought the hype!). Still, it is a good stove. And I'm actually quite tempted by the Ocelot; the stove may be a Windmaster, but totally windproof it is not.I myself would not choose a stove with a micro-regulator. All that it can do is limit the pressure available, not increase the pressure. I also would not invest in an auto lighter: the long term reliability has not been great. My 2 cents.
Similar for me too. I normally use alcohol stoves when backpacking and until this year had never used a stove on a day walk. But with the particular circumstances of 2020 I have done more local day walks and quite like to stop and make a coffee and I find gas stoves a bit more convenient for this. So I could save a bit of fuel with a windshield, but saving weight is not really an issue on day walks. However, don't be surprised if an Ocelot appears on the 'what have you bought' thread...And to get back to the OP
I'd totally buy an Ocelot if gas was my regular choice for backpacking. It looks a light and compact robust solution and possibly more effective than those half surrounding heavy solid windshields that clip to the canister?
Bigger hole innit, so guess it is regulating down much of the time. Less so at lower pressures, so lets more gas through than the much smaller sized hole in a normal valve hence bigger flame possible at lower pressure. (until a point)I've only got an Ali copy of the windmaster and it's great.
Could someone explain how a regulator can produce 100% flame at 15% gas pressure unless the regulator is regulating down the flow to what you'd get at 15% pressure anyhow?
Pro would use a nitrogen push system
Bigger hole innit, so guess it is regulating down much of the time. Less so at lower pressures, so lets more gas through than the much smaller sized hole in a normal valve hence bigger flame possible at lower pressure. (until a point)
Did you read the link above? (edit - Sorry - that comes across as somewhat abrupt! - what I mean is, did you read it, and so get a different idea of how it works than I do?)
Mine is arriving anytime now. I'll let ya'll know if its any good.Latest Video - Elaborations on assembling the Ocelot: Soto Amicus.
First impressions...
I haven't had chance to try it outside yet. Watch this space...
- A little fiddly to set up - but then aren't most windshields?
- A tad flimsy but likely strong enough for several trips. Conversely it weighs very little.
- My 900ml pot fits (just) but wide pots and pans aren't going to work as they'd sit on the windshield
Sounds all good. Thanks for the replies.... Means it will work with my pots. CheersMaybe. It's a bit fiddly with bare hands inside in the warm. Maybe OK with glove liners like I wear but definitely not in my outer mitts.
- Fiddly? Operational with gloves?
I don't think its going to cost-in (especially with delivery from the US) in terms of gas saving. Its the practical side of needing less gas for a trip and boil speed where it could be handy.
- Flimsy/ Several trips? Expense in proportion to fuel saving?
11.5cm diameter Alpkit pot.
- 900ml pot? More importantly, base diameter of your 900ml pot?
26g
- Conversely? Actual weight?
1) the windscreen is upside down
2) the mug look too large, the Ocelot was designed for mug up to about 750 ml
If it doesn't work for you, you can return it - Jon
Thanks @Jon Fong ml of a. Pot. Isn't helpful to most of us... An idea of pot diameter would be more helpful. I've a 450ml pot. That has an 11.5cm base. Cheers1) the windscreen is upside down
2) the mug look too large, the Ocelot was designed for mug up to about 750 ml
If it doesn't work for you, you can return it - Jon