Ultralight hammock!

Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Hello friends,

Just stumbled upon this and thought I'd share... A full size (325cm) lightweight hammock with sewn in bug net, weighing just shy of 400 grams!!! That's about half the weight of my more or less (obviously not in materials!) identical hammock.

This plus a lightweight 3x3 or smaller tarp, making a viably super duper light hammock set up. Approx or just over 1kg for tarp and hammock and bits n bobs, add UQ and pad +quilt or bag of your choice and you're away.

https://www.cocoon.at/products/index.php/p/hammock_en

https://www.addnature.co.uk/cocoon-...ock-single-size-olive-greenblack-1137218.html
 
Meadows

Meadows

Section Hiker
That looks pretty good, especially at that price.
You'd struggle with good coverage with a 3x3 tarp though at that length, assuming it's a standard ridgeline length. If you get one, let us know what like.
 
Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Meadows said:
That looks pretty good, especially at that price.
You'd struggle with good coverage with a 3x3 tarp though at that length, assuming it's a standard ridgeline length. If you get one, let us know what like.
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Yeah I guess so, though with a 3x3 put diagonally it should be fine, and to be honest I would be using it for long walks in fair weather where it would be almost guaranteed not to rain. And the summer rain here in Croatia tends to go straight downwards, too.

My easyhammock must be just over 3 metres and with the ridgeline set how I like it it does droop a lot so is considerably shorter, and I've always covered it with a 3x3 tarp (though I do also have the hilleberg tarp that is 3x3.5m, but it is double the weight!)
 
Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Chiseller said:
Looks okay, apart from rubbing of the net on the line?
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Seems to be a precedent in the hammock world (for hammocks with sewn-on nets anyway) and I've never heard of it causing problems. Presumably the net is made with enough excess material that lying in it doesnt pull it so tight. I've never heard of the net wearing through from friction on the line. When I first bought and used a hammock with a sewn on mosquito net I very much had this in mind though.
 
Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Meadows said:
Which EasyHammock, is it one with built in insulation?
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It's not ,its the 'survival' model that has the insulation area sewn in but with no insulation and a zip so you can put your mat in there or whatever else. If you put a sleeping bag in it soon just scrunches down to the lowest point, below your bum.

I originally ordered the insulated one then decided I should get one without as it would be too hot for use in the high summer. In the end I wish I had bought the basic one that is just a single layer hammock with a net but hey ho. It does make a useful pocket to chuck stuff into but obviously that won't work when using an underquilt.
 
Meadows

Meadows

Section Hiker
I kind of like the idea of the insulated ones as there are some advantages to the all in one system but they never quite tipped the scales re the negatives.
 
Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Meadows said:
I kind of like the idea of the insulated ones as there are some advantages to the all in one system but they never quite tipped the scales re the negatives.
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Yeah I agree, for a non weight-discerning (ok they're not -that- heavy) UK based person I think they are a great idea, you will always need about that amount of insulation and there are many advantages to synthetic in a humid or precipitating environment. I bought mine in the UK but knew I would mostly be using it in southern europe so i changed the order to no insulation. The sleeve that mine has is imo a halfway house that serves no purpose - not tight enough to hold a pad well against you so in colder weather will have cold spots aplenty, and without at least little loops in the corners to somehow fasten a down blanket (this isn't actually such a bad idea) inside the sleeve, anything you put in just slides down. Matt is a lovely guy though and the quality is great, no complaints there. I've even wondered about un-stitching the bottom layer but I wonder if all the sewing holes will become weaknesses in the material.
 
Odd Man

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
Ed the Ted said:
I've even wondered about un-stitching the bottom layer but I wonder if all the sewing holes will become weaknesses in the material.
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You could cut out the sleeve but leave narrow strips where the stitching is?

Unless I misunderstood the construction.
 
EM-Chiseller

EM-Chiseller

Thru Hiker
Ed the Ted said:
Seems to be a precedent in the hammock world (for hammocks with sewn-on nets anyway) and I've never heard of it causing problems. Presumably the net is made with enough excess material that lying in it doesnt pull it so tight. I've never heard of the net wearing through from friction on the line. When I first bought and used a hammock with a sewn on mosquito net I very much had this in mind though.
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I've only had one with a sewn net... Iirc it had the line outside.
Doesn't take much contact for netting to create a midge gate :(
 
EM-Chiseller

EM-Chiseller

Thru Hiker
Ed the Ted said:
Did it ever rip? or come close?
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Didn't have it long enough. I only used it a couple of times and sold it on as I didn't like the design.
There wasn't enough netting.
When it was zipped up, the netting reduced the volume of the hammock and it wasn't as comfortable.
With the netting Unzipped and stuffed away, it was great.
It was an expensive hammock from one of the US companies (I can't remember the name but @paul may have the same brand. I'm sure I followed his lead at the time.)
 
Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Chiseller said:
Didn't have it long enough. I only used it a couple of times and sold it on as I didn't like the design.
There wasn't enough netting.
When it was zipped up, the netting reduced the volume of the hammock and it wasn't as comfortable.
With the netting Unzipped and stuffed away, it was great.
It was an expensive hammock from one of the US companies (I can't remember the name but @paul may have the same brand. I'm sure I followed his lead at the time.)
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I think mine can feel like that too, feels small with the netting on. But the comfort and the open-ness to the surroundings, I love.
 
gixer

gixer

Thru Hiker
My Blackbird warbonnet has the ridgeline on the inside of the bug netting
Must be around 250 nights in that, plus around 300 Siestas :whistling:

Zero problems with the bug netting rubbing on the ridgeline

I'd buy another WBBB tomorrow if this one was nicked
 
Shewie

Shewie

Chief Slackpacker
Staff member
I've not used my WBBB since I got a Chameleon from Dutch a few years ago, I miss the shelf but Dutch offers a few accessories to get that storage space back.

As much as I love the BB it can be finicky about setup and more often than not I'd get a ridge under the calves as the footbox dropped away, there's definitely a sweet spot with them.
 
gixer

gixer

Thru Hiker
Shewie said:
I've not used my WBBB since I got a Chameleon from Dutch a few years ago, I miss the shelf but Dutch offers a few accessories to get that storage space back.

As much as I love the BB it can be finicky about setup and more often than not I'd get a ridge under the calves as the footbox dropped away, there's definitely a sweet spot with them.
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Use my BB at the caravan so i have all the lines setup ready, just clip it in and i'm off
As it's cooler in the hammock than in the carvan i'm most nights in the hammock
Great night's sleep as well, which is odd as i'm a side sleeper

Mossy net is by far the most useful function, mossy's are a nightmare there

Not ordered from Dutch since he started sueing other companies
Sooner take my money elsewhere
 
Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
Well... I bought it. Here are some pics for anyone who is considering it. Well made, simple design, nice materials. The zip only goes down one side of the mesh so you can't fully unzip and stow the mesh. Doesn't come with trees straps of any kind, just the hammock and two carabiners. It has 8 loops total, 2 at each foot and head end, both sides, sewn on to the outsides, presumably for aiding underquilt hanging. I thought maybe they could be staked out but the thread there is nowhere near reinforced enough for that imo. The bag is sewn on, not a fav feature of mine but I might well chop it off and hem. Overall its really really light, packs down very small, clearly well made and will do the job great, nice and big for a proper lay. Can't wait to test it over night!

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Ed the Ted

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
The Cumbrian said:
That looks great @Ed the Ted
How tall are you, and are you able to get a good horizontal lay?

Cheers, Michael.
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Hello Michael, I am 185cm and the lay seems pretty good and flat, first sleep out will hopefully be this weekend so I can give you more details then! The listed length of the hammock is 3.25m so Its as long as any of my other hammocks.
 
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