Cumulus Quilt 350

craige

craige

Thru Hiker
Dave Vaughan said:
Haven’t MLD, used a pad to quilt strap system since day one? A mates ZPacks has a similar setup too but I think she modded that herself
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No idea, pad straps have been on the go longer than the EE version though, quilts are hardly a new thing though, just us lightweights "reinventing" them in high tech materials/designs, I'm sure someone tied a hide down to cut draughts around 5000bc?
 
Clare

Clare

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ZenTrekker said:
I use wide elastic with button holes for my Cumulus 350 quilt, available from Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0742GG6VC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

3 x loops of elastic around my sleep mat and miniature toggles fixed to the tape on the quilt (3 each side). The toggles go through the buttonholes and I have a near limitless number of possibilities.
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I like this. What flat toggles did you find to use? In the video they are tiny flat plastic things that I can't find.
 
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Maxplosive

Summit Camper
Got my 350 last week but I won't get a chance to use it before August. Quality seems excellent and I really like the zipper + drawcord footbox. The stuff sack is a little small and I was afraid to break the quilt when I tried to stuff it so I think I'm gonna use it without the stuff sack
 
Clare

Clare

Thru Hiker
ZenTrekker said:
I couldn't source the flat toggles either. I used Tape Toggles and I think I got them from Point North, unfortunately they don't seem to do them anymore but I did find these . . . . http://www.makefast.com/acatalog/Black-Plastic-Toggle-for-Tape-0284.html
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Thank you. I guess that by definition you'll be sleeping on the toggle under the elastic so it should really be flat. How about plastic treasury tags?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Treasury-Tags-Plastic-ended-25mm/dp/B001233B8C

or swankier - fake bone, flat 2cm toggles
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Crendon-...var=621680542473&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
 
ZenTrekker

ZenTrekker

Section Hiker
Maxplosive said:
Got my 350 last week but I won't get a chance to use it before August. Quality seems excellent and I really like the zipper + drawcord footbox. The stuff sack is a little small and I was afraid to break the quilt when I tried to stuff it so I think I'm gonna use it without the stuff sack
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Try and get a Cuben dry sack from Paul Stokes at Tread-Lite gear. He doesn'
Clare said:
Thank you. I guess that by definition you'll be sleeping on the toggle under the elastic so it should really be flat. How about plastic treasury tags?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Treasury-Tags-Plastic-ended-25mm/dp/B001233B8C

or swankier - fake bone, flat 2cm toggles
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Crendon-Flat-Tooth-Shape-Toggle-Buttons-2B-1970-M/352273494004?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=621680542473&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
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I don't find the toggles an issue, they haven't dug into me so far! The toggles are 26mm long and only 4mm diameter at the largest point. I suppose it depends on how tight you have the quilt but i don't fix them any more than the width of my body.

Most of the time I only have one side buttoned up (3 toggles) and then just the foot on the side I get in/out of. Otherwise it would just be like messing with a sleeping bag. If I get cold, I just button up the two remaining toggles.

Does that make sense @Clare
 
craige

craige

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I think it's highly dependent on how you sleep. I use a standard width hammock gear quilt (125cm) and find it ok even below freezing, no draughts but I need a wide mat for my shoulders. I'm 6'3" with broad shoulders. Never used straps. I would like a little more width but more just for luxury when moving around before I go to sleep.
 
ZenTrekker

ZenTrekker

Section Hiker
craige said:
I think it's highly dependent on how you sleep. I use a standard width hammock gear quilt (125cm) and find it ok even below freezing, no draughts but I need a wide mat for my shoulders. I'm 6'3" with broad shoulders. Never used straps. I would like a little more width but more just for luxury when moving around before I go to sleep.
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We were comparing Cumulus 350 Quilts. How much down in the hammock gear quilt?
 
Enzo

Enzo

Thru Hiker
Best sleep I had in a quilt was cheating as I had my pad and quilt inside my overbag/insulated bivvy
 
dovidola

dovidola

Thru Hiker
Just discovered this thread. I have a Cumulus 350, had it for more than a dozen years. But it's a sleeping bag, weighing 733g including its stuff sack, which isn't bad against the quilt's 600g. It's so good I don't use anything else. Unzipped, it makes a generous quilt; if it gets cold, I zip up and also have the full hood available. Best of both worlds?
 
FOX160

FOX160

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Maxplosive said:
So if I'm looking to get my first quilt, would you guys recommend me going for the old or new 350 or the Taiga 480? Seems like the new quilts are very similar to their comforters?
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I wanted the comforter as wanting to use it for 2persons as a blanket for the summer, but the strapping looks to much a fath so went for the EE version for there straps which are now offered.
 
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ZenTrekker

ZenTrekker

Section Hiker
craige said:
I know, but all quilts will leak cold air the same if not sealed properly. The current version (mine's a few years old) has 360g of 850fp US down.
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About the same as the Cumulus 350 then. Mine is good down to just about freezing wearing a baselayear top & bottoms. Below that I use a lightweight Cumulus Magic 125 down liner bag and a down pullover. The liner bag cuts out the draughts but sort of defeats the object of using a quilt though.
 
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Sai

Day Walker
Comparing between the Quilt 350 and Comforter 350, I'm not sure what would be the benefit to getting the quilt (other than eliminating drafts in the foot box), especially since it sounds like the quilt and comforter now have the same continuous baffle construction. Does this mean that the new quilt will also pose the problem for side sleepers of down falling to the sides?
And about the temperature rating: the majority of the nights that I use the quilt will be 11-14 degrees, but in some places, it may reach 4 or 5.Will the Quilt/Comforter 350 be overkill? I also purchased a silk liner to use for when it gets really hot/cold.
 
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