12 months Carnivore - update on Trekking impact.

Discussion in 'Hydration, Hygiene & Health' started by Chiseller, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Well..... It's been just over a year now since I moved over from Paleo to Carnivore way of eating.
    Bear in mind... This isn't a keto diet. It's similar but by no means the same.

    Pros...
    Knee issues gone.
    Rotar cuff issue... Rarely noticeable.
    Weight loss... Negligible but down from 32/33 to 29/30
    Lean muscle mass... Increased.
    Stamina... Seems endless some days.
    Food requirements... Some days on the hill, I only feel the need to eat once.
    Rarely a need or urge to snack on the go.
    Ability to fast if needed which lowers weight of food needed.
    Eating Steak or Burgers whilst your mate spits the dust out from a pouch.
    Being able to go stoveless and still enjoy a meal.
    Recovery is excellent even after hard days. Very rarely have any inflammation
    Nature calls, sometimes once every couple of days... Which has its own benifit on the hills.
    Mental/ psychology... Improved and inspires me to go for longer/harder days.
    Sun resistance.... Less intolerant of exposure (not really a good thing)
    Immune system has improved, which means less chance of ailment on the hills or having to duck a trip.


    Cons....
    Weight of food carried when not fasting.
    Additional weight of fuel, skillet etc for cooking.
    Eating Big. When the need to eat occurs, the protocol is to eat until full. I have to eat big... Which can easily involve over 2lbs of meat, wet or dry.
    If caught short of food, the difficulty of restocking on a thru hike.
    Broken eggs.
    Social stigma.
    Keeping food fresh on warm days.

    I've had less vegetables, grains, fruit and sugars in a year than most have in a weekend.

    I've succumbed to the odd scone on or after a hike, rare indulginces like an ice cream or a couple of pints or a small chocolate bar.
    Some non animal Foods cause discomfort, lethargy and inflammation... Some are manageable and I can adapt to use them on the trail if needed. Down side is they don't really help me other than difference in taste and simulate chewing.

    Will I continue with it... Absolutely... Will I remain strict... No.
    If I want to eat or drink something out of protocols., then I will. (like Shewie's cold brew coffee)
    Which now puts me in the 'Dirty Carnivore' woe.
    It's not a lifestyle for everyone, but it definitely has its benefits for my treks and runs.

    Please keep replies relevant to trekking.
    Medical and environmental issues can be discussed elsewhere.
    Thanks.
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  2. PhilHo

    PhilHo Section Hiker

    Does this diet help osteo arthritis?

    Do you get the keto smell issues?
  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I've heard there can be benefits for autoimmune stuff so possibly.
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  4. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    Intriguing. I “noticed” a lot of the same benefits when I decided to no longer eat any meat 5-6 years ago. How much of it can be supported by peer reviewed science?
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  5. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    What's the longest trip (in days) you've done on this regimen?
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  6. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I try to keep away from medical claims, but I know of plenty of people who have found relief.

    Re keto smell? Not certain of what you mean? Breath? Meat sweats?

    With carni, I seem to sweat less in general and have had no complaints of odour. My breath isn't the best as I chew tobacco.
  7. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    There's plenty out there, as is the misinformationffor various reasons. I'm not here to claim other than my own findings :thumbsup:
  8. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Just over ten days in Sweden and Norway.
    There was a few opportunities to eat on the fly or restock.
    Without resupply, longest I've done is 3 days and 4 nights.
    It's easier in colder temps.
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  9. tallest of pauls

    tallest of pauls Ultralighter

    Why don't you boil eggs and carry them? That's what I do when on the trail.
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  10. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I love my eggs... Just never got on with boiled eggs... Daft I know... I prefer them poached, scrambled or runny.
    At one stage I couldn't eat cold egg... I can eat a cold omelette and cold scrambled... I just can't get past the dryness of a boiled yolk.... :eggonface:
  11. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Met a bunch of "hunters" in an NZ hut - they were out for a week without re-supply and had a large plastic lidded "jar" containing their egg supply - all without shells.
    I guess they "poured" out what they wanted as and when ?? Don't know how long they kept them for.
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  12. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Thanks for that... I'll have a look around. I usually carry a half dozen in the box, stuffed with kitchen roll, box taped and then into a pressloc bag.
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  13. PhilHo

    PhilHo Section Hiker

    Chickens just need to improve their packaging, or you could learn how to make really good scotch eggs. :)
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  14. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Just read enough to put me off carrying hardboiled eggs... Allegedly they spoil quicker once boiled.
    Dehydrating is a lot of effort...
    In warm weather, I'll stick to carrying fresh, unwashed eggs in a box and resupply and eat as soon as I'm hungry.
    Colder weather, I've cracked the eggs into a pour n store bag at the start of the trail, then eaten them the 1st night or morning. I'm happy with that.
    I may try a lite weight lexan bottle with the water in method... At least the lexan will be multi use for various purposes once I've done with the eggs and not have to worry about breakage.
    Cheers
  15. Robin

    Robin Thru Hiker

    Summit to Eat freeze dried scrambled eggs are good, especially if you add Biltong. Add slightly less water than the instructions
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  16. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Just had a look, good for you, not for me :vomit:

    Cooked Scrambled Egg(Pasteurised Whole Egg, Sunflower Oil, Skimmed Milk Powder, Lemon Juice, Salt, White Pepper)(75%), Cheese Sauce Blend (Whole Milk, Single Cream (Milk), Diced Onions, Grated Red Leicester Cheese (Milk), Grated Cheddar (Milk), Grated Mozzarella Cheese (Milk), Rapeseed Oil, Cornflour, Salt, White Pepper)(25%).
    All red flags for my way of eating.
    Thanks for the suggestion though.
  17. Robin

    Robin Thru Hiker

    I suspect pretty much all commercially processed food is going to be off limits. Maybe dehydrate your own?
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  18. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    In italImy aunt used to cook a massive batch of sausages in lard then pour them all into a huge jar and leave them like that, just pull out a sausage and wipe off the hardened lard when they wanted one. Not sure how long they lasted, but I guess it's like salami, if you drive off the water and fill the void with fat and salt it'll last.
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  19. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    @Robin I looked at dehydrating eggs... Seems a fair effort for the result. I'll stick to eggs on day 1 or 2 :thumbsup:
  20. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I believe Teepee has cracked it
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  21. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    There's not alot that he hasn't cracked :cool:
  22. Rmr

    Rmr Trail Blazer

    Not heard of the bottle with water in method, could you please explain, thanks.
  23. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Sure :thumbsup:
    Some folks, put the eggs into a nalgene bottle or a large plastic peanut butter jar.
    The idea is, that once the eggs are covered in water and the bottle is filled upto the lid....
    The eggs are protected by the water and are less likely to break on the move.
    It does work but it's adding weight.
    It would be okay for a short overnighter but I'm happier with the eggs in their card box.
  24. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Scotty Von Porkchop used to crack eggs into a plastic container and use them over a couple of days. I'm sure he said what he thought timewise but I can't remember, so not sure how long they'd be good for?
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  25. Rmr

    Rmr Trail Blazer

    Thanks for that, idea is good but extra weight not so good.
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