3-4 season

Discussion in 'Kit Lists' started by Enzo, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    For context 4 season to me is low level, say -6ish.
    Moving more to 4 season I'd add 175g fleece longjohns and swap out ghostwisperer for OMM raid adding 190g plus 3mm aluminized ccf ~80g.
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2018
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  2. NEEpps

    NEEpps Ultralighter

    No wash or poop pack - and you're going commando:bla::yuck:
    I'll be bringing scales and seat covers
  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Lol, I always forget something!
    I'll amend now
    In the sumer I use lined shorts, not sure if that counts as commando?
    I wash every year, whether I need to or not I'll have you know !;)
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  4. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Enzo carries everything out. He leaves no trace, just a slight whiff. ;)

    The advantage with the overbag is that it can supplement your warm layers in camp. You look like a pillock while putting it on but it's toasty warm afterwards :

    [Edit: the guy doing the demo is actually using a 500 fill Cumulus comforter IIRC]
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  5. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I'd definitely have to supplement those layers in camp at -6!
    For me 100g of primaloft for static camp use is not enough at or below freezing. I want down (as well!) And enough of it.
    If I don't take enough, I'm stuck in my sleep system to keep warm.
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  6. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    The heavy Waterproof Shell in your 'clothes worn' section?;)
    I expect your electricals go in the pocket?:whistling::D
  7. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    If its that cold i'll be wearing it lol!
    Your right of course, I'll move It to pack.
    I like the idea that you should take only clothes that you can wear all at once. So potentially thick socks, base layer, micro fleece, hypertherm, ghost whisperer and wp coat on top and two trousers plus wp trousers on bottom with fleece buff and softshell Balaklava on top (plus fleece goody hood. And all topped off with 67 apex overbag. The overbag would be more effective if it was sewn but I have snaps on it for this type of flexibility. And that's the 3/⁴ season list. Add fleece longjohns and omm raid for 4 season -6.
    I go out on my tod, so I don't tend to hang around camp and so tend not to carry bulky static stuff. Tucked up reading if its dark early and if its summer walk till dark and crash.
    Leave no trace is so passe, I try and take out more than I take in ;)
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  8. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Had a think about my overbag, I'd make it different if I made another (might do, I have a myog 133 quilt that I'm never going to use I could dissect) id use robic 7d outer, and think I'd make a sewn footbox up to ~60cm then poppers and put a slit in the middle so it would work as a poncho liner. I did consider doing that when I made it, and might have a go at retrofitting. Its not my finest work tbh.
    Something like this swagman but just a slit rather than a hood. uploaddata_59d3881fb6863.jpg

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