A Shangri-la by liteway
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I would imagine if the whole order exceeds that amount we'd get a volume price.Hmm I couldnt find it... How many of these shelters are you going to order @Daniel ?
Would need to get 8-10 people together but seems feasible based on interest in this thread?
Skogstoken
Summit Camper
I am in Sweden so... not sure if splitting can be arranged somehow?
Norrland
Thru Hiker
Ohhh
Daniel
Thru Hiker
there is soon, go back a page
areality
Day Walker
The dimensions are significantly larger than the old Golite Hex 3 or Shangri-la 3, or the current Bach Wickiup 3, but lighter in all three versions than all of those. The Wickiup 3 is burdened by extra beefy webbing buckles both for the pegging points and for the connection to the (heavy) inner. Scottish Mountain Gear would be happy to replace all of those but when I tried sending mine from France, Parcelforce threatened a heavy import tariff so rather than pay I accepted non-delivery and return to sender. Grrrr. The Scout is also lighter than a Seek Outside 4P Cimmaron Lite, which doesn't appear to be larger but is made from 30D silnylon mixed with PeU. Quite an accomplishment for Liteway!
Ultra paired with the hexagonal shape would make it a heckuva wind resistant mid. 599€ is a pretty good price, too. I love mids and the more sides the better. This would be the version that I would choose, unless stealth color was a priority, in which case the green silpoly would be best. I can't see getting one myself, though. I already have a stealthy green Wickiup 3 in 20D sil/sil nylon. Were I to need the wind resistance of the Ultra version, I'd be traveling solo anyway, so would opt for a smaller, lighter mid or a tipi with a stove port in winter.
The midpoint guyouts are placed in the middle of the panels, not on the seams as I would have preferred. I'm curious about this design choice. Perhaps this has been field tested to work better in most situations while being simpler construction-wise, hence keeping the cost down? Or could it be that it offers superior performance in high winds? I'd be surprised if that were the case, hence my curiosity.
Maybe Chris Townsend will have to get one!
Ultra paired with the hexagonal shape would make it a heckuva wind resistant mid. 599€ is a pretty good price, too. I love mids and the more sides the better. This would be the version that I would choose, unless stealth color was a priority, in which case the green silpoly would be best. I can't see getting one myself, though. I already have a stealthy green Wickiup 3 in 20D sil/sil nylon. Were I to need the wind resistance of the Ultra version, I'd be traveling solo anyway, so would opt for a smaller, lighter mid or a tipi with a stove port in winter.
The midpoint guyouts are placed in the middle of the panels, not on the seams as I would have preferred. I'm curious about this design choice. Perhaps this has been field tested to work better in most situations while being simpler construction-wise, hence keeping the cost down? Or could it be that it offers superior performance in high winds? I'd be surprised if that were the case, hence my curiosity.
Maybe Chris Townsend will have to get one!
Rog Tallbloke
Thru Hiker
It's 1" shorter on each side and 2" shorter in height than my Hex3. The big cat cuts reduce the volume a lot compared to my Hex3 too.
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Norrland
Thru Hiker
I agree on the midpanel tie outs.. never liked them. If I did ever use them I attach some some elasticated cordage first. I disagree with you on the use of webbing at the tieouts though. It is my preferred option. No faff, no slipping.
areality
Day Walker
The webbing would be useful in winter when you might use skis or otherwise improvise with pegs. But for summer the webbing on the Wickiup 3 adds at least 100g over linelocs, probably more.
Skogstoken
Summit Camper
I wonder if you can you pitch the half inner in any orientation that you want? Im asking because if I purchase the scout I'd most likely ask if it's possible to add a 2nd door opposite to the 1st.
If I can pitch the inner in any orientation I'll pitch it so that both doors can be used at the same time (meaning that half the opening will be blocked by the inner but I'm ready to take penalty sometimes). I really came to like that with my to-heavy Luxe Minipeak Xl during last summers trip when the wind was shifting from different directions. It meant that I was always able to have one door open for view etc etc.
If I can pitch the inner in any orientation I'll pitch it so that both doors can be used at the same time (meaning that half the opening will be blocked by the inner but I'm ready to take penalty sometimes). I really came to like that with my to-heavy Luxe Minipeak Xl during last summers trip when the wind was shifting from different directions. It meant that I was always able to have one door open for view etc etc.
Mole
Thru Hiker
Not sure if this is what you are asking. But my Hex 3 is modified to have 2 doors opposite. However the half inner is arranged, only one outer door is accessible.
Skogstoken
Summit Camper
Ok but is that because the shape isn't fully symmetrical? I mean if the shape is symmetrical it should also allow one to rotate the inner to fit it in any way one would want it to right as long as there are clips are available?
Mole
Thru Hiker
The Hex is fully symmetrical. ( As is The Scout as @Daniel confirmed earlier in this thread )
And you can put the inner where you want.
But:
A. The 2 outer doors, if opposite one another, have 2 sides of the Hexagon between each door.
B. The rear edges of the half inner I have covers 3 sides of the Hexagon.
So one of the sides of the half inner will always cover one of the doors if the other door is accessible ?
I guess if done with the Scout which has the door zip in centre of the panel rather than edge of panel like the SL3, you could get a half door at each edge of the inner.
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Skogstoken
Summit Camper
Yeah this is what I'm hoping will be possible aswell. If I know I only need one door then I'll pitch the inner at the "back" so both door flaps at 1 door can be opened but for me it would be super versatile to also be able to pitch in the way that you described on your post!
el manana
Thru Hiker
They seem to have gone for a Bach style 'symmetrical' half inner rather than the offset inner made by Oook for the SL3. Be curious what the dimensions are.What about this kind of fully solid inner lining for this tent? Was made as test version by Liteway
Currently have no idea how it performs, but the fabric tension looks extremely good, better than most factory solid inner tents that I saw.
cathyjc
Thru Hiker
Fewer seams.
Skogstoken
Summit Camper
Hope this helps)
If I understand that picture correctly it should mean that you can rotate the inner in any way you as long as there isn't some sort of very specific way of pitching the inner.
EDIT: DOH!
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Mole
Thru Hiker
Well, 3 positions that don't completely block the outer door?
And if it had 2 opposite outer doors, the half inner would always block one of them as I described previously.
(An oookworks style layout half inner could have front corners aligned with the outer door zippers, but you'd still only get half a doorwayeach side and would be awkward to go in an out of I think.)
Skogstoken
Summit Camper
Right... Im to quick at typing and also way to hopeful that it would work that Im not thinking clearly ;D..