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kvragu

kvragu

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Is the thing with Outdry jackets that they have the membrane on the outside and no dwr? Like goretex shakedry? I'd be curious to see how/whether that works. Come to think of it I don't really have a walking rainproof.
 
Arne L.

Arne L.

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kvragu said:
Is the thing with Outdry jackets that they have the membrane on the outside and no dwr? Like goretex shakedry? I'd be curious to see how/whether that works. Come to think of it I don't really have a walking rainproof.
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Indeed.

I’ve been using a GTX Shakedry jacket for running and daily use since 2017 and a Colombia Featherweight for backpacking since 2018 and it works very well.

I’d never go back to a jacket with a DWR.
 
FOX160

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dovidola said:
Dunno - I bought mine 2 years ago acting on a tip-off from someone on this site (good price, hideous colour). Often these 50% discounts are offered because the model is about to be replaced. It calls itself Columbia Titanium Outdry Extreme Featherweight.
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Found these weights on here. https://www.worldbackpacker.co.uk/m...09/outdry-ex-featherweight-shell-jacket-p8815

SpecificationFabric
  • Small weighs: 194g
  • Medium weighs: 204g
  • Large weighs: 220g
  • XLarge weighs: 224g
  • Fit: Active fit
 
kvragu

kvragu

Ultralighter
Arne L. said:
Indeed.

I’ve been using a GTX Shakedry jacket for running and daily use since 2017 and a Colombia Featherweight for backpacking since 2018 and it works very well.

I’d never go back to a jacket with a DWR.
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That model has chest zips? How crucial do you think they are?

Enzo said:
I just wish the design of the featherweight was better for UK conditions.
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Whaddya mean?
 
Arne L.

Arne L.

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kvragu said:
That model has chest zips? How crucial do you think they are?
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To me the chest zips are more of an annoyance. I prefer regular zips so I can keep my hands warm and dry-ish.

The whole point of the zips at the chest is venting. To be fair, I’ve never used the jacket in ‘hot’ rain. Whenever I had serious & prolonged rain in the Outdry jacket it was cold (because I was up high enough or just because it was, well, cold) enough that venting was not necessary.

I can’t recall ever being too hot in the jacket even when climbing up a hill or mountain.

But let’s face it. Climbing a hill/mountain in the rain and wearing a pack is never going to be a massively fun experience. But in that instance, the chest zips might be of aid ;)

That being said; Shakedry is considerably more breathable then Outdry but the former is considerably less durable. I love my TNF Hyperair but I took it on a few backpacking trips and in sustained rain it will leak along the shoulders. That is why I don’t take it backpacking anymore.
 
TinTin

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Chiseller said:
Forget what you thought you knew with powerbanks.....

This is the best I've bought yet....
Less than 3hrs to charge from flat...(with the huawei wall charger 99g)
Genuine supercharge of my phone.... 12k mah, trickle charge for small devices that works... And the best bit... 224g!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PY539N4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hMSLFbTCAEAT9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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I really like my Anker Powercore 10,000 mAh 180g £23

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-Compact-Fast-Charging-Technology/dp/B019GJLER8/
 
kvragu

kvragu

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Arne L. said:
To me the chest zips are more of an annoyance. I prefer regular zips so I can keep my hands warm and dry-ish.

The whole point of the zips at the chest is venting. To be fair, I’ve never used the jacket in ‘hot’ rain. Whenever I had serious & prolonged rain in the Outdry jacket it was cold (because I was up high enough or just because it was, well, cold) enough that venting was not necessary.

I can’t recall ever being too hot in the jacket even when climbing up a hill or mountain.

But let’s face it. Climbing a hill/mountain in the rain and wearing a pack is never going to be a massively fun experience. But in that instance, the chest zips might be of aid ;)

That being said; Shakedry is considerably more breathable then Outdry but the former is considerably less durable. I love my TNF Hyperair but I took it on a few backpacking trips and in sustained rain it will leak along the shoulders. That is why I don’t take it backpacking anymore.
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That's great to hear, I might snatch the zip-less ugly one then.
 
kvragu

kvragu

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Chiseller said:
Forget what you thought you knew with powerbanks.....

This is the best I've bought yet....
Less than 3hrs to charge from flat...(with the huawei wall charger 99g)
Genuine supercharge of my phone.... 12k mah, trickle charge for small devices that works... And the best bit... 224g!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PY539N4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hMSLFbTCAEAT9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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I need to find that r/UL thread about powerbanks, arguing that the unit shouldn't be mAh but something else I forgot. Someone's made a spreadsheet (of course they did).
 
EM-Chiseller

EM-Chiseller

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Lempo said:
There's a larger, but lighter PD one on sale at AMZ today

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Powe...t_DLandingS_D_ab29dd31_64&smid=A2PGPJL0BBLHLX
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That's a 10k... Mines 12k
Mine will recharge to full in under 3hrs, that doesn't get near. Mine will supercharge my phone from flat to full in around an hour.
I've just had one full charge from empty, one charge from 10% to full and a full charge for my garmin and there was still a small amount of juice to give.
The anker doesn't come close when it comes to use over several days and a quick recharge in a cafe or pub over a meal should get it back to halfway.
The anker is great for a two/three day, one and a quarter charge hit..
Probably better suited to other phones, but not for my p30 pro or phones with big batteries.
 
Odd Man

Odd Man

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Chiseller said:
That's a 10k... Mines 12k
Mine will recharge to full in under 3hrs, that doesn't get near. Mine will supercharge my phone from flat to full in around an hour.
I've just had one full charge from empty, one charge from 10% to full and a full charge for my garmin and there was still a small amount of juice to give.
The anker doesn't come close when it comes to use over several days and a quick recharge in a cafe or pub over a meal should get it back to halfway.
The anker is great for a two/three day, one and a quarter charge hit..
Probably better suited to other phones, but not for my p30 pro or phones with big batteries.
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I meant physically larger size compared to the one @PhilHo linked.

Yours will only benefit Huawei phone users, as others can't do proprietary high speed charging
 
EM-Chiseller

EM-Chiseller

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Lempo said:
I meant physically larger size compared to the one @PhilHo linked.

Yours will only benefit Huawei phone users, as others can't do proprietary high speed charging
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Should still benifit all with its fast recharge... And I'll test the fast charging ability on the wife's new Samsung when she gets it. I can't see why it should charge an iPhone/ othe android etc any slower than an anker etc?
 
Odd Man

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Chiseller said:
Should still benifit all with its fast recharge... And I'll test the fast charging ability on the wife's new Samsung when she gets it. I can't see why it should charge an iPhone/ othe android etc any slower than an anker etc?
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It charges other phones 'slower' because the other phones input is limited to 18-20W depending on the make & model. Only Huawei phones will benefit from 40W charging speeds.

Here's a very good comparison:

http://www.chargerlab.com/huawei-12000-40w-supercharge-power-bank-review-the-porsche-of-power-banks/

However, if your charger is 40W charger, then you can charge the power bank quicker than most. Many Anker PD power banks have input/output of 18W because that's the max input for iPhones, so it's not worth to spend the extra money for something which would not be used or used very little, especially since many Anker lightweight chargers are 18W.

A quick comparison is that Anker Nano charger (18W) weighs under 50g, whereas the Huawei one weighs 99g, so basically double the weight for double the power.

For someone with Huawei, Huawei charger & power bank is a no brainer. 2x speed power bank charge & 2x speed phone charge at 224g + 99g = 323g.

For someone with iPhone, Anker Nano charger & 10k PD power bank. 18W speed (half of Huawei) bank charge & 18W (max speed for iPhone) speed phone charge at 160g + 49g = 209g.

iPhone user would benefit for ultralight 30W or 40W charger and power bank, which would allow quicker charging during stops (to charge the power bank faster) even when the iPhone charging speed remains the same.
 
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Enzo

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Hi @kvragu and @Arne L.
What I meant was crap hood for wind driven rain, needs better peak, shape, and the ability to tighten up better.
Doesn't cinch up around your waist so no way to keep warmth in etc
Vents you can't use as hand pockets.
I like the fabric and when I bought mine it was a good price, but think +20g and a redesign it would be my go-to, rather than something I'd only take in hot calm weather.
If I could combine outdry fabric with alpkit pulse design I'd be much happier.
 
EM-Chiseller

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Lempo said:
It charges other phones 'slower' because the other phones input is limited to 18-20W depending on the make & model. Only Huawei phones will benefit from 40W charging speeds.

Here's a very good comparison:

http://www.chargerlab.com/huawei-12000-40w-supercharge-power-bank-review-the-porsche-of-power-banks/

However, if your charger is 40W charger, then you can charge the power bank quicker than most. Many Anker PD power banks have input/output of 18W because that's the max input for iPhones, so it's not worth to spend the extra money for something which would not be used or used very little, especially since many Anker lightweight chargers are 18W.

A quick comparison is that Anker Nano charger (18W) weighs under 50g, whereas the Huawei one weighs 99g, so basically double the weight for double the power.

For someone with Huawei, Huawei charger & power bank is a no brainer. 2x speed power bank charge & 2x speed phone charge at 224g + 99g = 323g.

For someone with iPhone, Anker Nano charger & 10k PD power bank. 18W speed (half of Huawei) bank charge & 18W (max speed for iPhone) speed phone charge at 160g + 49g = 209g.

iPhone user would benefit for ultralight 30W or 40W charger and power bank, which would allow quicker charging during stops (to charge the power bank faster) even when the iPhone charging speed remains the same.
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Ahhhh so no benefit to an iPhone user then... Doh

Still it's a 12k bank your comparing weight against a 10k on the charger itself.
It would be interesting to see if the huawei bank would charge quickly with the nano plug???? Anything under 4hrs would be a joy.
Most banks that recharge quick from the wall, seem to carry high price tags.
 
Odd Man

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Chiseller said:
Ahhhh so no benefit to an iPhone user then... Doh

Still it's a 12k bank your comparing weight against a 10k on the charger itself.
It would be interesting to see if the huawei bank would charge quickly with the nano plug???? Anything under 4hrs would be a joy.
Most banks that recharge quick from the wall, seem to carry high price tags.
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Your Huawei plug is listed 40W, as is your Huawei power bank. Nano is listed as 18W. This means that using Nano vs Huawei plug, Nano would be over 50% slower.

Ugreen 30W would be only 25% slower than the Huawei and would save you 64g.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0819KTV96/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=AXZ3JQ1GVFPIF&psc=1

Also one has to make sure, the cable is to quality and also that it's not one of those multi-connector cables or 3in1, because they loose more power and don't support fast charging.
 
EM-Chiseller

EM-Chiseller

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Lempo said:
Your Huawei plug is listed 40W, as is your Huawei power bank. Nano is listed as 18W. This means that using Nano vs Huawei plug, Nano would be over 50% slower.

Ugreen 30W would be only 25% slower than the Huawei and would save you 64g.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0819KTV96/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=AXZ3JQ1GVFPIF&psc=1

Also one has to make sure, the cable is to quality and also that it's not one of those multi-connector cables or 3in1, because they loose more power and don't support fast charging.
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The ugreen plug weighs 104g allegedly....
 
kvragu

kvragu

Ultralighter
freidenker said:
Hello from the neighbour forum!
I ordered the jacket once, but returned it again. Here are some pictures with a few words: https://imgur.com/a/zCQTbLB

To answer your question: It weights 258g in medium (with tags).
AFAIK the featherweight got replaced by the lightweight shell and the lightweight jacket. The shell is intended for trail running and the jacket for backpacking.
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Do you happen to know whether the difference between the 'shell' and 'jacket' is anything other than the zips? There doesn't seem to be any difference in material quoted.
 
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