Buffalo mountain shirt

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Jon jons, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. Padstowe

    Padstowe Thru Hiker

    You want a tight fit for the benefit of the pile to work right, some people go down a size I believe for this reason, I wasn't that brave & went for my normal size in a S6 shirt, but it fits better the last few years. :angelic:
    I've had mine in all day winter rains, I find it works good but that may be because I run very hot so my body temp is able to push back the water better? I do still carry an insulation jacket for stops though.
    Some people don't like to take them camping, I don't mind, turn them inside out at night if they're wet, bit brrr to put on first thing but chuck an insulated jacket over the top do whatever & I find am quite comfy in no time, throw off the jacket when am ready to move & pretty soon the venting zips will be all the up if its dry & above zero (& even below zero in cases of ascending) cause its that bloody warm for me. :)
    edit: also have the active lite shirt, not the same at all, more like rab's vapour rise line but am not to fussed on the outer fabric they use on it, pertex is better imo
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  2. pound foolish

    pound foolish Backpacker

    Buffalo clothing has many fans but I fail to see what it does better than a fleece and wind shirt. Why is it special?
  3. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    For some reason it is just really warm without needing the layers, but I suppose a good quality pile fleece with a pertex shell might work the same.
  4. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    It's dark magic....
    The depth of the pile, the cut of the cloth...the ability to open one side opposite the wind direction...the ability to open both vents, whip it off....shake it hard...pit it back on...you soon forget how cold you were while you took it off to shake the excess sweat off...
    Dark magic.
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  5. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Another that is hard to find is the old Rab Berber pile shirt...I've had two and dearly regret selling them...they were built extra tough but the downside was they ran a bit warmer than the buffalo but wernt as bulky as the montane shirts.
  6. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Which lead me to a quick search...an heyho...one in xl (no affiliation)
  7. pound foolish

    pound foolish Backpacker

    They`ve certainly given some thought to ventilation options on a few, but not all, of their garments so that`s not a USP for me. Dark magic it is.
  8. Warrenbond

    Warrenbond Trail Blazer

    Any one use the Buffalo trousers think they could be just as useful than the tops
  9. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    No. I think it would need to be seriously cold or I'd be too hot - especially on ascent and changing them a bit :stop:
  10. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    I've been looking at those, to use as an overlayer instead of a belay jacket, not sure if it would work well tho.
  11. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I used the Mardale trousers a couple of times last year ...in sub zero windchill I found them to work great . 20171227_162051.jpg 20171227_154639.jpg
    Its as much about having the confidence in the kit to wear it ...
  12. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    They are toasty as an over layer, but they don't work as well . I'd say the maximum underwater should be a very thin super wicking layer . My wife used to just wear a sports type bra. When she 1st got a buffalo , she didn't trust it and would layer up underneath...she didn't seem to feel as warm with layers and moaned it was cold. Once she trusted it , she was fine.
    She has sold it though and it will be interesting to see how she layers for sub zero this winter.
  13. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    My current buffalo is the Big Face shirt as i found the mountan shirt to short for me, its longer in length and sleeves. I have the teclight trousers also. As mentioned above a booster layer for when stopped is good and a waterproof outer for when it is constant rain. The pertex fabric is deceptively hard wearing.
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  14. Warrenbond

    Warrenbond Trail Blazer

    Meadows would the teclite trousers work as a booster for sleeping in a quilt
    And do they pack up small cheers
  15. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    Had the High Altitude one’s years ago and they were seriously too warm even on the coldest mountain day. Sold them one to someone who was off to do some alpine stuff and when he got back he said they were useless as seriously too warm as well
  16. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    They are warmer than just long johns as the pertex allows heat to be trapped in.
    Packed size wise they are ok but not the smallest.
    Pics are of an xl.

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  17. Warrenbond

    Warrenbond Trail Blazer

    Thanks for that Meadows they are not bad mmmmm what to do
  18. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    Go on go on go on.
    As a Sheffielder i was obliged to have Buffalo and Rab and in the distant past Javelin.
  19. Warrenbond

    Warrenbond Trail Blazer

    could be these or the montane prism pants I'll have to ponder a bit
  20. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    Almost a Sheffielder myself but I wasn't keen on Javelin jackets despite being at school with the son of the person who started the firm. They were far to prone to rubbing a hole through them. I preferred the knitted pile HellyHansen jackets. In fact I think I still have mine from 1978 somewhere in the loft.
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  21. Pipe Cleaner

    Pipe Cleaner Summit Camper

    Just got a special 6 shirt. Went to an increasingly rare outdoor shop that stocks them near me to try on. Very limited stock and a lot more than I could have got it for online or even a shop near me but the other way.

    It wasn't ideal because of price and colour. I'm tall and want length to help any rain run off to miss my lower torso. The choice was a blue mountain shirt or a green S6 shirt. I wanted S6 but hate green and love buffalo blue. I nearly got the mountain shirt because on me there didn't look much length difference. Lining them up together is 3" longer in the S6.

    So I had to get the green S6. My pov is that function overrides fashion and tbh colour is just fashion really.

    So I've got to learn to love green. I'm singing "I'm in the army now, ooh aah! I'm in the army now" while wearing it round the house. I'm off now to scour army surplus stores to look for some olive green base layers, fleece, those mesh scarf things (shemagh?) and some wool beanies for the head. ;)
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  22. Jon jons

    Jon jons Ultralighter

    Just got mine yesterday, £130 from outdoor action in blue. I'm impressed so far.
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  23. Pipe Cleaner

    Pipe Cleaner Summit Camper

    The S6 or mountain shirt?

    Paid a lot more but I got it from a single outlet independent and got good advice and service from 3 shop assistants due to my uncertainty. In some ways saving £20 or supporting such a store when the other such stores in that town have had to shut down is not obvious. I chose to pay nearer mrrp than the price that is possible in other stores or online.

    When it's £170 when a lot are selling for £150 and a few at £139.99 you're really paying a premium for a traditional Aladdins cave of an independent that sells good brands that don't fit into the marketing style of multi store chains or mini/regional chains.

    Outdoor action on Blackburn right? They tend to buy in bulk and sell cheap I reckon They're family tents tend to be a lot cheaper than most places stocking similar models.
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  24. Pipe Cleaner

    Pipe Cleaner Summit Camper

    I got the longer S6 shirt and it is perfect fit for me. 42 is practically my size without needing adjustment. I couldn't fit a 40 and I reckon the 44 would be too big. The 44 belay jacket is big and baggy on me for sure.

    Did you get a hood too? I'm wondering whether to get one. I'm off to Norway and this is my pottering around outer plus I might ski in it too. If it's bitter a buff and beanie might not be warm enough.
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  25. Jon jons

    Jon jons Ultralighter

    Is the Mountain shirt not special 6, tried both on in adapt outdoors in Liverpool but only in army barmy green. Not got a hood for it but may in the future. Seems to regulate temperature really well. Good stuff.

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