Camp trousers

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Stuart f, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    So for years I’ve been fine with not bothering about keeping my legs warm when sat for a while but since I had a stroke aged 45 I’ve suddenly found that I feel the chill in my legs. I now walk in merino base leggings and ME w g2 trousers. It’s okay when I’m moving. My concern is sitting around camp, cooking , chilling out, I feel the chill.
    Ideally a lightweight insulated over trouser that has full length zips, weighs little and compresses well .... big ask I know.
    Alternatively it’s change into some down trousers in the scarp.
    And recommendations guys?
    Seen ME compressors and buffalo mentioned

    cheers

    Stu
  2. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I really like my Pajak Ghost shorts. They're knee length so grass doesn't wet the bottom. They're very light and compress much smaller than my wife's 3/4 length ME Compressors. Bit spendy, though.
  3. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Good shout that. Never thought of shorts but the weight benefit and pack size is a good idea. Are they Pertex coated in case it’s damp and drizzly?
  4. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I carry down trousers almost year round as a potential sleeping bag boost and for around camp; I change into mine when needed by putting them on when slipping into my evening wear - long tights of various synthetics, so when ready to turn in I can keep the troos on or just remove then and be in my base layer.

    I can see the benefits of something like the Compressors (not heard of them before) for more flexible use and 'longer' stops en route.

    But they are heavier; difficult to get both desires together?

    Although...WilliamC on here uses (I think) zip on Down 3/4 pants (Edit: I see he has responded). And looking at the Montbell site they do full length with zips too. My down trousers are by Montbell too - they are good. Others here rate Cumulus - a mate has a pair and they look good (well, on him :inlove:).

    I find one of the best things for me as age brings greater cold sensitivity is to wear down socks in camp and while sleeping - they make a huge difference for me.
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  5. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Just been looking at the cumulus down trousers and they are impressive spec for just185g . Not bad price either. Having down next to my merino would feel more comfortable than zipping on something over my G2s .
    I can see the appeal of using them to add warmth in the bag to and eliminating the need for a heavier winter bag if chuck my cumulus endurance jacket over top too. Down socks
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  6. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Here's some information in English. They're Toray Airtastic material. It has a really nice feel but I wouldn't wear them in drizzle. ME Compressors' synthetic fill would be better for wet, I imagine.
  7. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    I suppose water resistant is a luxury for chilling out. After all, I can easily squeeze my Rab zip on waterproof trousers over them if needs be.
    The shirts are tempting as they are so light. Not sure if full length may be better for extra warmth in bag when needed though.
    Decisions decisions
  8. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    With the Montbells (not sure about Cumulus) there are ankle elastics designed so you can cinch the trousers higher on your calf/below knee if you want
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  9. Robin

    Robin Moderator Staff Member

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  10. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Cheap as chips (£15), no side zip but there is a version with side buttons: the M65 liner (thread here). 290 grams before tailoring, 230 after.

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    Almost as cheap (£30), the Skogstad Lifjell Primaloft Shorts from Sportpursuit (still available in a snug XL) come to just above the knee, use Primaloft Silver Insulation Eco 25g and have full length zips. 230 grams. Note: the sale of Skogstad stuff is technically over but I have found that it is worth revisiting old links on SportPursuit because they are the only way to find out that something is back in stock because a customer returned it.

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  11. Daymoth

    Daymoth Section Hiker

    I use cheap fleece pajamas for camp
  12. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I do much the same as @edh. If chill change into baselayer leggins and down troos before I sit around cooking at camp - and then I'm also ready for bed.
    I have a pair of Montbell (long and narrow) and a pair of Chinese from Aliexpress - www.aliexpress.com/item/4000154510168.html?spm=a2g0o. (- wider and not so long - be carefull with sizing it's not the same as UK).
    Chinese - cheap so no hit if doesn't work for you.
    The Chinese ones are similar weight to Montbell, and the loft isn't much different either.
    There are Chinese ones with zips up the side too.
    The ethics of Chinese down might give you pause for thought tho'.
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  13. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I have down socks (Goosefeet I think) and wear them to sleep but hesitate to wear them around camp due to risk of getting wet given I'm frequently camping in a bog :rolleyes:.
    However, changing into a pair of waterproof socks - Sealskins (other brands are available) helps keep feet warm.
    Damp chill feet makes the rest of you feel chill too IMHO.
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  14. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Well my boiler has been on the blink for 4 days and given how cold my legs have felt( particularly the ankles) I think that I’m leaning towards down trows for camp. I’d have them on now if I had them.
    And as cumulus do some reallly cheap down shoes, may as well get them too. where is the cheapest place to source Montbell trousers as they seem quite decent too
  15. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    The Tectop trousers on Ali are good for the money Stu
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  16. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Not sure how I feel about Chinese down but could you post a link to those tectop trousers please. Find that site hard work to navigate .
  17. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Will do, I know what you mean about the site, I’ll find a link when I get on a PC later
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  18. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I got my Montbell down troos 2nd hand. No help to you.
    Follow the link in my first post to get to the Tectop troos.
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  19. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Montbell has an international site. BUT the bargains are buying from the Japanese site direct if you are not an excluded country. :banghead::banghead:
  20. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Some kind of EU rules?
  21. jack4allfriends

    jack4allfriends Summit Camper

  22. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    No, trade embargo. I am forced to pay higher prices and have less access as well. But Brits can I am pretty sure. Try it.
  23. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Damn they’re good for that price. It’s just all those geese being plucked alive that I’m uncomfortable with. But it’s half price for virtually the same item
  24. RobH

    RobH Trail Blazer

    Have the Montane Prism pants for camp. Very warm even when damp and pack down very small. Carry them as part of unplanned stops in cold weather. Great with booties in tent also.
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  25. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Nice.!

    Has anyone tried the Aegis ones?

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