So, I know my chair thing doesn't necessarily make much sense, but on a long trip I want to be able to sit and watch the stars in comfort, while wrapped in my quilt, or sit inside the tent to read on a rainy day. On a long trip, I want to carry less weight, not more, and this chair weighs 402g, almost the same as a tent (if I had an Aeon Li, which I don't), so possibly, in the end, I'll decide against taking it to France with me. So this is or was born as a Helinox Ground Chair. I replaced the DAC tubes with carbon tubes, including little thinner inner tubes so that the two pieces that comprise the longer back struts can snap together. Quite satisfying. Weighs 342g. Total weight saving on tubes 100g. I replaced the supplied sturdy canvas and mesh sling chair with a home made sil nylon sling. I experimented with complicated half lap seams for max strength but in the end just did what I think is called a french seam, ordinary seam then overstitching the seam allowance in one direction. The real stress points are where the poles meet the pole holding pockets. I made the pockets with hypalon and spread the load by putting foam inside a pocket on the corners. It weighs 60g. Total saving on sling chair 149g So original ground chair 645g. Mine is 402g. Was it worth the huge effort. Probably not! But anyway, there it is.