Snagged one. The only (hoodless was my goal) things (packabilty/warmth) I could find to match it -The Berger Hypertherm looked okay-out of stock. The OMM Rotor-heavier, not as warm and more expensive. The Nunatak JMT -well, 4 month wait far more expensive-same Apex tho' and I reckon as packable. EE Torrid jacket not quite as warm (but more packable and a wee bit lighter) and far more expensive. Tried to make a Arteryx Atom SL that I have work, but it's no-where near warm enough and too breezy for my static needs. Should be sent in a few days. Ta to all for all the info on Cumulus quality which I read about all over the forum. I hope this is quite packable which is my only mild concern, I know it will be warm as I have something using this level of Apex already.