Cumulus Climalite

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Cranston, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Snagged one. The only (hoodless was my goal) things (packabilty/warmth) I could find to match it -The Berger Hypertherm looked okay-out of stock. The OMM Rotor-heavier, not as warm and more expensive. The Nunatak JMT -well, 4 month wait far more expensive-same Apex tho' and I reckon as packable. EE Torrid jacket not quite as warm (but more packable and a wee bit lighter) and far more expensive.
    Tried to make a Arteryx Atom SL that I have work, but it's no-where near warm enough and too breezy for my static needs.
    Should be sent in a few days. Ta to all for all the info on Cumulus quality which I read about all over the forum.
    I hope this is quite packable which is my only mild concern, I know it will be warm as I have something using this level of Apex already.
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2019
  2. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Can't wait to hear how you get on with it...
    I've been hankering after buying an Atom SL for a few months now. Just couldn't justify another garment pre Norway and now I'm still out of work, highly unlikely for a while yet.
    I tried one on and fell in love with the feel and cut.
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  3. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Wearing it now.
    I thought I might post some details as I live remotely and have to order everything nearly online so I appreciate the little details when people include them.
    Arrived. Very, very bloody quick too-much impressed with the 15 Euros post cost especially when it delivers -crikey!
    I have stuff posted from the US often at five times the cost take 25 business days. Zpacks and Nunatak-they take a fortune in post then you wait for bloody ever.
    As warm as I expected. Apex weight (I believe-I have another reputable Nunatak garment to compare) as stated. Win.
    Athletic fit-but I reckon a bit of lee-way there, as a not too thin bloke that I am-happy to give dimensions.
    I am on the cusp of Large to XL in this I would say, (normally between M and L) -very slight tautness around under arm pit area and around waist when wearing Pulse Hoody and M-Nitro under, can also wear my Kiuiu Peleton 97 under and walking shirt -for the same fit. I was pretty confident it would fit like this. To'd and fro'd with a bloke on redditUL re sizing. It fits exactly as he says his does. His is the down version so I took a punt.
    I'm keeping it.
    Very nice length-will cover most of my bum at back and easily below belt at front when it is 'pulled down' which I need to do lightly due to my hip size.

    As I pulled it on I thought hmm-but it mostly slides on and done. As I said tho', I reckon I am on the cusp of sizing up. I don't mind things being of this fit. Only in my rain wear I would look for increased volume.

    What you can't quite see on the pics or they don't tell you;
    There is some shoulder reinforcing on top of the shoulders! Another layer of Quantum or feels like something stiffer covers the place where your shoulder straps would sit/rub. Well thought.
    The centre zipper is longggg-more than half the length of the front-about 7 cms above my navel. You need to vent -you can. Easily.
    The neck fit is perfect-not too tight.
    Elastic sleeve ends-perfect tautness-and elastic waist-stays down when you put it there.
    The sleeves are really nicely roomy-so as you bend your arms the material doesn't bind up. You don't feel constricted. Sleeves are long enough for me to cover most of my hands as well, should I want.
    The jacket folds into it's Napolean pocket. Importantly for me-it folds up to the size of a 160/m2 Fleece! I find this mightily impressive.
    For example this packed size compares to my White Sierrra zippered fleece (1/4 zip-AmazonUS) total weight 220 gms in Medium. The Climalite is much warmer!
    My Uniqlo fleece jacket at app 290 -300 gms/m2 and total weight at 400 gms is quite a bit bigger (50% bigger) as a bundle than the Climalite.
    The Climalite is also warmer than that. Big win for me.
    Not nearly as packable as my Borah Down Jacket with similar warmth (I think)- but this is not the reason I bought it.
    Out this morning on a few hours walk/run-cold, raining and hailing (wind at 50-70 kms and zero to 4 degrees) I would have loved to slip this over for my cuppa-my down has clumped on occasions.

    What you already know;
    No air (from breath and I would say wind) is passing through. Bought as a mainly static piece. Worried it would allow some wind thru'. Big win.
    Excellent quality stitching etc-I was led to believe from you good people on here quality would be excellent-it is. Ta again. Win.
    You can easily see a great deal of thought has gone into this piece. Slimmish fit, no pockets a good level of insulation in what I reckon is a well weighted zippered jumper.
    Price is what it is so that's a call for others I can't make- But as I mentioned above it is readily (at least for me) available, two colour choices only, but order to delivery, 14000 kms as the cocky flies in seven days!! Bloody hell! and (far) cheaper than (some of) my options I would have liked to pursue but couldn't and the first impressions of quality are really excellent.
    Arrived this morning after last night watching my footy team give another a total shellacking.
    Life's good.
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2019
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  4. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    The Climalite in Large is an identical fit to my Atom SL in Large for reference.
    The Atom is obviously more flexible, but they match for size and style of cut perfectly.
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  5. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Have you weighed it, @Lamont-Cranston, as there seemed to be some uncertainty over that?
  6. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    G'day William-as mentioned towards the bottom of page two, no uncertainty in the end. Sorry, might not have made that clear.
    @mathijs started the ball rolling. Weight is (and was known before I ordered to be) 250 in L.
    After my query Cumulus amended their site -they said add 9 grams per increase in size.
    If they made this in the Airtastic you could knock off a bit easy, and it would make it more packable, but up the price I reckon. Seems a good balance. This Pertex Quantum on here as many will know feels very robust that is next to my Argon 67 on the Borah.
    This is made to be used active in the Polish cold I am feeling.
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  7. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Very happy chappy.
    Used it now on five occasions with a sweaty back etc, temps around the 2-8 degrees, fast/hard walking (and even to work for three days to gauge how warm it is when static) as soon as I stopped for a cuppa, for about half an hour or so- I've slipped it straight on when I stopped walking.
    Can feel the dampness (not uncomfortable) but it's gone within about 10-15 mins and I remain warm whilst that happens. Then head off dry. Sweet.
    Push it back in the rucksack as is-no extra airing and no over coddling, but I am mindful.
    No wind felt through it whilst sitting but the moisture is clearly getting drawn into the drier Apex and/or then out thru the other layer of Pertex(?) I suppose as taking out the jacket later to air, I can feel no dampness (slight perhaps in the arm pits) - if it's damp, and it may well be, I can't feel it.
    Considering the amount of sweat it's been exposed to there is no smell also.
    A correction to my post above-I can push some air thru' both layers of Pertex and the Apex, blowing moderately hard. At a guess 5 CFM? Not sure what I tried first time.:chicken:
    Time will tell but it's a good start.
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019
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  8. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Bit of an update. Further to above.
    Packed pretty tightly, not babying it now, just push it in to all the nooks and crannies at the top of the rucksack, always inside out-trying to preserve the outer DWR and let the dampness (sometimes arm pits) escape in the rucksack, and used about 25 times.
    Always put on with my clothes damp, especially arm pits as an added warmth layer when stopped usually.
    Quite glossy at the outset -but has settled to a very light sheen. Used walking a few times at about 2-3 degrees when the wind jumped to 30-35 knots. Macpac Nitro and Rab Pulse hoody under for reference.
    Too warm when the wind dropped.
    No visible decrease in loft, all seams etc as good as new. Creases fall out quickly.
    Had to lightly sponge (no soap) just the arm pits the other day, the fabric got a bit (salty I suppose) stiff-but only on the inside.
    Soft again immediately.
    No smell tho'-got my daughter to confirm. Will not wash it I reckon until a persistent smell or noticeable loss of loft.
    Still highly water resistant at this early stage. Sat in rain the other day rain beading very nicely.
    Quite a bit warmer than a 280 gm/m fleece.
    Say equivalent to a 280gm/m fleece plus a non breathable windshirt/raincoat.
    Packs as above.
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  9. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Sorry to reassure t the post but I’m looking at a cumulus Incredilte endurance and I’m normally a small to medium. Looking to use it over a merino layer in camp near summits. They only have a medium in stock and no large . I’m a slight build 40 inch chest and 30 waist. I’m your experience so far, would their medium suffice? I’m small in all arcteryx but medium in mountain equipment.
  10. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    I'm ~38" chest & have the medium, with base layer & fleece it's roomy enough to pull over head with zipper half done up.
  11. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Is that 40 inches on the skin or with your layer? I have the L in the Climalite and XL in fhe Primelite and the XL fits better. My chest is about 105 cms. They all seem to taper so your waist will not be an issue but the chest may. I have a feeling the M on Whiteburn might be near the limit and that it would be quite tight on you but you would probably be able to get it on. Mightn't help but they will happily take returns.
  12. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Just got the Mrs to measure me with my T-shirt and light sweater and it’s 96.5 cm.
    Yay. I’ve shrunk in 12 months. Must be all those mountains I end up on.can eat more pies now.
    Guess this my bode well for the medium now?
  13. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    I'd say so. Does that equate to Whiteburns 38 inches? My measurements are based on my recent purchase of both and their current 'fit'.
  14. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    It’s 38inches yeah. If their range is like others, I’m guessing that different garments have a slightly different cut in their sizes that may affect which I need. Gonna fire them an email off
  15. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    @Cranston A year on how are you getting on with your Climalite Pullover. I'm thinking about one as a layer for stops and sleeping in on really cold nights.

    I have Arcteryx LT hoody which is a tad to heavy and not quite warm enough and a Decathlon down hoody that I worry about getting wet. The Climalite pullover sounds like it may be the best compromise in terms of weight, warmth and less need to worry about it getting wet.

    Don't Cumulus occasionally have a sale?
  16. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Hi ho. Wore it this morning (and y'day morning and the one before that). Two winters and going strong. Do you have a specific question/s Phil?
    One thing I can say from the quote above is that it I will dry under it if I am damp (never tried soaking wet tho') and already warm. I very much like the breathabilty for my use.
    I use it out powerwalking/jogging training when I expect to be damp and I stop for a cuppa about 7-12 kms in and about the same to go on the way back if it will be under about ten degrees. I do this three to four times pretty much every week and the Climalite has travelled with me for about 1500kms so far I'd say-mainly carried (in a 10L ruckie) and the thing is still 'puffy' as was new. Can't see any change in the Apex-it is still as warm as new. Remembering though I am putting it on warm-and can sit for 40 mins in about 3-5 degrees (apparent temp) and remain comfy (not toasty -unless I have light pants on) for the off after my cuppa. It was about eight degrees out of the wind this morning and I was nearly too warm in it -but I had (slow motion-8-9kms/hr) jogged. I wear shorts most of the winter. I think if I was static say at the end of the day and it was about the 5-7 degrees (at a guess) with a light Nitro say under and put some wind pants on I would be pretty warm. Have only walked about 20 kms in it sporadically when it (I) was cold -to warm up.
    When the wind howls I reckon I can get a wee sniff of it through the Pertex, which I like.
    About the cost I bought it a part of a group buy so it was a (ripper of a) bargain!
    I think my use of it may be different to that for which it was designed?
    Happy to answer any specific qs and post some pics if you want. Mathjis has one as well from memory?
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  17. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    Cranston Thanks for coming back to me.

    I wouldn't plan to wear it on the move. I'm usually too hot in a Rab pulse T-shirt when moving but get cold sitting around. I'm looking for a synthetic jacket that is very lightweight, small pack size and reliable as a stops and camp puffy for Scottish and Lakes conditions. I guess that I'm saying I have my doubts about what I have and wonder what you think to it for my suggested use.

    I was bored earlier and happened upon a Darwin Youtube video where he was extolling the virtues of an EE Torrid Apex hoodie. So I searched for information about it and found my way back here. I think you said earlier that you have both the Cumulus pullover and the EE Torrid so I'f my memory is correct, I'd be interested to hear your comparison of the two of them and whic you think might suit me best for the use stated above.

    Thanks again
  18. Henry

    Henry Ultralighter

    Patagonia micro puff?
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  19. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    No worries. I own a Nunatak Skaha Hoody which has 100gm/m in the body and the 70gm/m (same as in the Climalite- but all over the jacket) in the arms.
    I use that out walking overnight for weather around zero. Different level of warmth. Don't own a Torrid jacket sorry. But I think the diffs would be in favour of the Cumulus. The weights on the Apex if they are correct, are in favour of the Cumulus. I reckon without the full zip and I believe it is 15D shell this would be a tad warmer and tougher. They offer 10D max in the shell. The weights are almost identical. Love jumpers/jackets with a half zip so a full zip wasn't wanted. It will pack easily into its chest pocket (about a litre?)but I have never done that. I just pile it a bit looser in a bread bag in the ruckie. Then that sort of squashes out in the wee ruckie. I do also own a Cumulus Primelite?
    I'm not sure what temps you are thinking of using it. That's really all I go on when choosing what to wear. Americans youtubers I think pretty much talk three (summerish 'hiking season' for them) season-which I take to mean about 6-8 degrees plus weather almost all the time. If this is what you want to cover you would be more than fine. Chuck a raincoat over if needed and thin UL windpants over your shorts. What temps minimum are you thinking?
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  22. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    I'm coming at this from a different angle. I have 300 grams to spend and want to find the best bang per buck synthetic jacket I can for that weight allowance.
  23. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Same angle as me. Unfortunately you can't get that as of yesterday. It's the one at the top of this page-Nunatak. The quality of my Climalite (and Primelite) jacket is equal. The outer shell is a wee bit heavier, that's all. Some companies use lighter outers, thus get slightly lighter jackets. My best 'bang for buck' was the Nunatak and this jacket in second when I bought it. Recently had the opportunity to buy an as new EE Torrid Hoody for 100 pounds. Was a bit tempted. I would have bought the Nunatak but didn't for the reasons stated in that first post at the top of this page.
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