Cumulus Taiga query

Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by Lamont-Cranston, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Would anyone have any feedback on attaching a Taiga (150) to an X-lite for ground use? It (attachment system) looks quite different (or absent?) given it's intended use. Also wondering if anyone is using a Taiga for ground use?
    Also given the shape of the back how well it can be 'closed up' and whether doing so overly shrinks the internal cavity? It looks to have a quite effective lacing system? For reference I want the closed footbox and can be a side sleeper. This Taiga looks very much like a Nunatak Arclite I had. Differential cut, vertical baffles up top, chunky neck baffle. Seems great. I want it for about 7 degrees plus. Thanks kindly G
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2019
  2. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    I don't have a Taiga but I did have an old-style Quilt and they appear to be identical except for the vertical baffles on the upper half.

    The attachment system is/was just loops sewn in with some shock cord running through. The shock cord lacing is different but the loops are the same.

    If you are a side sleeper, I'd ask Cumulus if they can make it a tad wider as I found the old-style Quilt a bit narrow.
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  3. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

    I think @Daniel has one, he might ibe able to help
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  4. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Ta. @Balagan do the cords somehow go under the mat in a loop or something my Nunatak let in draughts but I would want this for mild weather so I will consider one wider and it may do the jobTa and @theoctagon- perhaps Daniel will check in. I have a gift voucher and looking for something I don't already have. If I could somehow attach that thing the way the normal quilt is attached it could be a winner. I am also considering a standard 150 quilt with 30 gms of overfill -would be just on 400gms and more useful as a blanket as well.
  5. ZenTrekker

    ZenTrekker Section Hiker

    The attached diagram is how the previous style Cumulus quilts were supposed to attach. Personally I did Cumulus Quilt Section.jpg Button Hole Elastic.jpg Button Hole Elastic.jpg n't like the system and I use 3 x Elastic loops that have 'button-holes' in them. The elastic loops go around the sleep pad and I fixed small plastic toggles to the quilt to fix into the button holes.
    Cumulus Quilt Section.jpg
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  6. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    As I said, all you have are some loops through which you can thread shock cord in your preferred style. Here are two takes on attaching the old-style Cumulus quilt to the pad with shock cord:

    Quilt350-Cumulus_04_hr.jpg

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    Personally, I don't like the shock cord and I think attaching quilt as above kind of defeats the purpose of having something looser and more flexible than a sleeping bag. I did fashion something like @ZenTrekker above but with flat plastic buckles I can slide along the elastic. Worked nicely when I gave it a try but I haven't really felt the need to use it since I have a wider quilt. I think it's only useful when the temperature are cold enough that you wish you had brought your sleeping bag or when stacking quilts to secure the outer one.
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
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  7. qy_

    qy_ Summit Camper

    I have a Taiga 360. i tried it on the ground and as a side sleeper I found it wasn’t wide enough. It is a nice quilt and it is perfect for my hammock, but I would add width if I bought one intendent also for sleeping on the ground.
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  8. ZenTrekker

    ZenTrekker Section Hiker

    I agree about having something that is looser/flexible, otherwise why bother with a quilt. I forgot to mention that I tend to only button up one side of my quilt and leave the side nearest to the tent door unbuttoned for a quick exit.
  9. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Ah ha!
    It took me a while @ZenTrekker to work out what was going on in the pic. Brilliant Ta.
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  10. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Thanks @qy_ . That's noted.
    Great advice.
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  11. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Great @Balagan, thanks for the advice. Just what I was after.
  12. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    yes i have one, not used it yet so if i can help ask away
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  13. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    here's my quilt 200(150) with the green taiga 360. same width at the top but tapers quickly.

    Attached Files:

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  14. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Thanks very much for taking the time to take the pics Daniel. That really highlights the differences.
    I am thinking more along the lines of the 150 quilt with some overfill (just quoted for overfill 40 gms-now waiting for the account/payment details then I will purchase) now which I think would better suit my needs so your pics are very timely. Might I ask @Daniel the lowest you have been comfortable with your 150 (you say'200' does that mean you got/added =50gms overfill?) and how much you were wearing under the quilt?
    Do you find the down shifts (slides over) during the night to the sides with the continuous baffles?
    I am hoping the overfill will make it more stable.
    Thanks kindly.
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2019
  15. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    yes 50g over stuff. lowest temp probably around 7deg. i use a bivi in a single skin tipi clothes usually a t-shirt possibly with a montane fireball smock or a lightweight down jacket.
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  16. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Thanks mate.
  17. Giulio

    Giulio Day Walker

    Hi, im interested to buy my first quilt in EU .
    Whats the total lenght of the Taiga ? Im 185cm 77kg... Do i need longer version? I read that for ground sleeping Is not wide enought ... I contact cumulus and they make some customization !!!
    Thanks...
  18. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    you sound a similar size to me, im yet to use it in anger but im hoping it will work ok for me. the width may be the only problem for some. i got sent a long id normally use a regular length. im 6ft
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  19. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Just received the 150 with 50 over (and a Primelite), very nice. That company are excellent to deal with. Lofts well.
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  20. Giulio

    Giulio Day Walker

    Can you measure the width of the quilt when flat? around the hips??
    I have to place an order for the Taiga 360 !!! my first quilt and im undecided which custom width to take, they offer +10cm or 22cm Just because in a side sleeper! Thanks
  21. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    can u wait another day, sorry its packed im off out tonight to try it.
  22. Giulio

    Giulio Day Walker

    Of course...thanks ... and good adventure!
  23. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    20190831_195239.jpg 20190831_203226.jpg great 1st night in the taiga 360, i recall mainly side sleeping and swapped side a few times during the night and each time i had to adjust the quilt around me but overall very impressed.
  24. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    i used the taiga for 3 nights in the alps just and it was to warm:rolleyes: before i left i only attached to bungee cords to the back and made sure that the quilt would took around me which it did perfectly. here it is getting an airing next to a quilt 350and a quilt 250. 20190920_074701.jpg
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  25. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Good on you boyo. Ta.
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