Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by Cranston, Aug 9, 2019.
I am 186cm/93kg and have the normal length. It works well for me.
Got these pics from a guy over at r/ultralight of a standard length and width taiga quilt. He was perfectly happy using it for groundsleeping in this configuration, but to me it looks quite narrow? Would be interesting to se similar measurements made on a "standard" width quilt from another brand to get an idea of the differences in width!
I´ve got a question.
My first idea was to get the quilt 450 with 900FP cuin and the Toray fabric, it would have a temp. limit comfort rating of around -9c. Now the Taiga seems good to me aswell. Yet, I would like to get a 3-season quilt, and I´m a cold sleeper, and in Scandinavia it could get -5c in the summer, which is which I´m going for -9c limit comfort rating. But if I take the Taiga instead, would this be way to warm for 3-season, to have 450G of 900cuin FP down? I like the idea of the closed foodbox, yet I´m unsure if this makes the quilt too warm for 3-season use. What do you guys think?
personally i like a closed footbox for the colder months its why i have a quilt 200 for summer airing, i had to air my feet a few times in the taiga 360 and temps only got around freezing (im a warm ish sleeper).
I have a Taiga 360 on trial atm.
Build is extremely high as I'd expect from Cumulus, fill seems very even and lofts very well. The foot box feels a little narrower to me compared to my Quilt 350 (closed foot box version).
Once I have used it more, I'll post some pics, measurements, comparisons etc.
Look forward to it. A pic of the back and the system of 'lacing' (?) would be appreciated please Dave. Still can't get my head around how this would attach as well as the straps do to a mat.
I don't attach quilts to my pad but will get some pics taken and posted up of the back. Its the same as on my quilt 350, small loops with shock cord and a cord lock. I will try and get the pictures tomorrow for you.
Thanks kindly Dave.
as Dave said same as the quilts, think i only used 2 short bungees out of the 4. also note in the pic how it tapers off quicker than the standard quilt with a slightly narrower foot box.
Some comparison pics vs my Quilt 350 regular. The pad is a Xlite regular and the Taiga I have here is the 360 Long
Both quilts lined up with the bottom of the pad
350 on top of the Taiga. Not totally lined up but positioned how I would sleep in the 350 if using the elite
There is space inside the Taiga to hunker right down and pull the quilt over my head. I am 6ft tall and can pull it right over and close the buckle / cinch the top of the quilt closed.
Both the 350 and the Taiga have four sets of loops to run shock cord through
They can be run around the bottom of a pad loosely and then tighten up if you want to. I have the cord in place on my 350 but don't attach the quilt to my pad. If the temp drops, I simply cinch the quilt all around me like a bag and have plenty of room to move around.
To avoid getting tangled up with the cord. Its probably best to have both length over the pad.?.
The top of the quilt had a flat central release buckle, a cinch cord and two cord locks, one either side so that the quilt can be close around your neck. There is an internal neck baffle pictured below.
Neck Baffle, runs full width of the quilt.
Quilt cinched up so the sides of the opening meet
I said above that the footbox feels tighter on the Taiga. I stand by that even though from the pictures it looks wider/roomier. Internally, for me the 350 feels roomier. This may be down to the Taiga having a slightly longer closed foot box, the Taiga has an angled end though which feels very comfy when laying on your back with feet pointing upwards.
WOW. Thanks for the comprehensive series of photos and comments Dave.
Much appreciated. Looks like an excellent bit of kit. Have you never lashed it to the mat just to give it a burl and see if it holds over a night?
A while back I tried and EE Rev quilt with the pad straps and really didn't like it. I felt restricted, I tried my 350 attached to the pad once and felt the same.
I prefer having the movement and flexibility of not being attached tbh
Ta boyo. Good to know. Always interested how people do it without strapping it down. Wish I could. I had the EE Rev (2016 model) and sold it. Draughts, not enough down. My new wee Cum 150 (190) is a winner. No draught, straps work a treat. Better all up product than the EE. Would look to the 10d Toray next time for certain.
I have EE Convert -6c XL/XW and I don't use straps, as zipped up there's enough space to move around. I take a weight penalty, it's 900g, but it's bloody versatile and nice.
Interesting, I can totally see that being a problem! Do you have the taiga in standard width, and if, is it really wide enough for ground sleeping without straps?
its the standard width 140cm but long in length, ive used it for 4 nights with only 2 short bungees attached around my body in a bivi bag with no issues.
So would you suggest adding width to the Taiga, if its used for ground?
depends on your size, im 6ft 75kg slim ish and its ok for me
I'm at the point of ordering my Taiga but I'm still brainstorming about the fabric.
Is the Toray Airtastic upgrade worth it, are there any long term users here that can share some experiences?
Does the fabric hold up and does it handle moisture well?
Or should I just go for the normal Pertex Quantum?
Thanks for the imput. Would you say both back-sleeping and side-sleeping is ok without extra width for you?
It'll be lighter if nothing else! But I can't see a problem.
I like the quantum-we both have it on our Climalite jumper- giddee up, but looking back now, I should have got the Toray on my 150(190) quilt. How much extra are they asking? That could be the killer.
What did you come up with @mathijs ?
How has it been in use Dave? Are you noticing a boost in warmth with the closed footbox.
My Taiga with 480g of 900cuin down in Toray fabric with +10cm extra width, arrived. Rated around -9c. Did not use it yet outside, but its really warm. Its a bit more heavy then they said it would be (its 710 grams), and I dont think I needed the +10cm extra width, could have done without. Love the attachment system to wrap it around the body.
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