Fabric choices for MYOG Mariposa clone?

Discussion in 'DIY & MYOG' started by Teepee, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    The next project on my cutting table is a clone of my beloved but well used Gossamer Gear Mariposa plus.

    I've shortlisted some swanky materials for the main body it but wondered if I'd missed any that were available?
    Does anyone have any experience with any of these fabrics? The Dyneema/Nylon looks like the ULA packs and X-Pac is familiar.

    The shortlist;

    X-Pac:
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    http://www.extremtextil.de/catalog/X-Pac-VX07-backpack-laminate-165g-sqm::851.html
    Comes in different weights and colours

    Cuben/polyester hybrid:
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    http://www.extremtextil.de/catalog/Cuben-polyester-hybrid-laminate-102g-sqm::1886.html
    Comes in different weights, similar to the Z-Packs Blast



    Dyneema/ ripstop Nylon;
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    http://www.extremtextil.de/catalog/Dyneema-Nylon-Ripstop-140den-120g-sqm::2030.html



    Keprotec ; [​IMG]

    http://www.shelby.fi/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_29_161&products_id=837


    What would you like to see your ultimate multi-day pack to be made from?
  2. Shewie

    Shewie Chief Slackpacker Staff Member

    Personal preference would be the hybrid cuben, for weight and weatherproof.

    But XPac is damn sexy, how about both? Maybe XPac on the base and back panel, red against cuben would look a bit tasty.

    No complaints with the dyneema gridstop on my ULA packs either, it's tough stuff. MLD and SO use it in the peaks of their shelters for pole support.
  3. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    My Crux packs are made of Keprotec; its tough. packs have faded a bit over the years but little wear....I've used the AK37 extensively...

    ...but not of late.

    Have you looked at comments made about Chris Zimmerman's packs - he uses a mix of fabrics and gets good feedback?
  4. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Love this forum, that's them all covered in one night. :)

    A mix of fabrics; yes . That's what I'm thinking. Certainly, the excellent black Vectran re-inforced mesh from Quest Outfitters will do the pockets (same as my G4). Fancy the 3d spacer mesh from Pro-fabrics for the strap lining too. Red X-pac and Cuben would go well.

    Keprotec was an unknown but knowing the Crux packs are gives it much more credence. The biggest concern I had over the Keprotec is UV and flex resistance ( liquid crystal polymers like Keprotec suffer with UV and 'self cutting'). That's why its faded. Obviously, it's not an issue.

    Not heard of Zimmerman before, checking out his site.
  5. Shewie

    Shewie Chief Slackpacker Staff Member

  6. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

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  7. Shewie

    Shewie Chief Slackpacker Staff Member

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    Mole Thru Hiker

  9. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

  10. Shewie

    Shewie Chief Slackpacker Staff Member

    Okay I opened the BPL link :) Apart from that OP are there many other folk complaining about cuben yet?

    The fact that he's ruined a perfectly good Exodus by putting the crap Arc Blast frame on it, that tells me he doesn't really know what he's on about anyway :)

    Nothing to see here, carry on :)
  11. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Are you not a fan of the Arc Blast frame then Shewie? If not, why not?
  12. Shewie

    Shewie Chief Slackpacker Staff Member

    I find it slips Ed, not so much with a lighter load but with a good food resupply on board the LineLoc 3's just slip after a few miles.

    It's a good idea but the LineLocs aren't the best solution IMHO
  13. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Cheers - I'm thinking of getting one so food (sic) for thought.
  14. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Shewie.

    Can you put a slippery hitch in the line once adjusted to prevent slipping?

    What thickness line is used? Most lines under 3mm (as supplied by MLD) will ultimately slip at some point IME. (Have tried a lot of lines in lineloc3s.)
  15. Shewie

    Shewie Chief Slackpacker Staff Member

    I think that's the problem Mole, I think Jo has only used maybe 2mm cord, I've struggled with LineLocs with anything less than 2.5mm. It doesn't sound like much but it does make a difference I've found.

    Without having a proper look at the pack, it's up in the loft again now, I think the cords are sewn directly into one of the seams on the pack so they couldn't be replaced easily. A simple overhand knot would probably work to set it once and for all.
  16. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    The Line-Locs don't seem the ultimate choice for setting the arc. Flat tape and a ladder lock would undoubtedly hold better and should weigh no more.
  17. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

    Pics of finished backpack yet? ;)
  18. Robin

    Robin Moderator Staff Member

    ZPacks Arc Blast. Perhaps the design has changed. From this picture it looks like the cord for the frame could be replaced by 2.5 or 3mm cord

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    Picture taken from this post.

    I'm tempted by the Arc Blast
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  19. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

    "I'm tempted by the Arc Blast"

    as am I
  20. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I'm going to get one... it looks like a good bet for the PCT.

    Tough enough, can fit a bear can, compressible...and for me 'load lifters'
  21. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    Me too,

    Mmmm With Christmas coming and all. Santa should up his game and wrap our prezzies in tyvek or summat. I imagine a Terrys chocolate orange wrapped up in a meter of cuben would make a great prezzie. My creative mind is in overdrive about pass the parcel :)
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  22. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Delusion is so comforting :rolleyes:
  23. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    are lifters an option? don't see any on the photos
  24. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Yep.
    Not that they lift... I think of them as 'snuggers'..
  25. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Just watched Stiks Blog showing him unpacking his Arc Blast; going through all the kit and food he is taking on his up and coming Appalachian Hike.

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