Flatcatgear Ocelot gas burner windshield testing.

Discussion in 'Kitchen' started by Mole, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    I re-shot the video

    The next stoves will probably be the PocketRocket Original and the Soto Amicus
  2. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    The Video for the Ocelot BRS 3000t is complete. Prototypes fo the Original PocketRocket, Fire Maple 300T & the Soto Amicus are complete.

  3. Henry

    Henry Ultralighter

    Jon this looks great. Once the Amicus is ready, I think you might have a customer:)
  4. Stumpghes

    Stumpghes Summit Camper

    Jon, have you compared wind performance of BRS w/ Ocelot and Soto Windmaster w/out?
  5. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    Here is the BRS data: with and withouth the Ocelot Windscreen. Note that the BRS was barely functional at 2 mph.
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    The PocketRocket Deluxe basically copied the Soto Amicus / Windmaster and I suspect the results will be the same. Production parts are probably 6 weeks away.
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  6. Stumpghes

    Stumpghes Summit Camper

    Jon, thank you. I hadn’t realized the Sotos were so similar to PRD.
  7. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    Here is a video that captures feedback from Ocelot users.
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  8. Helen E

    Helen E Trail Blazer

    Thanks, @Jon Fong – any news yet on a screen for the soto amicus?
  9. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    The Prototype for the Soto Amicus is done and tested. Gearing up for manufacturing now. Maybe late October/December?
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  10. Helen E

    Helen E Trail Blazer

  11. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I can hear old moanin' Norman kicking the coffin sides from here... Can't quite hear what he's saying though? Summat abaht patents?
  12. Henry

    Henry Ultralighter

    October to December? Looks like that’s one xmas present to myself...
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  13. tallest of pauls

    tallest of pauls Ultralighter

    So wrong.

    Pillock.
  14. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I've got that cap :thumbsup: won it in a competition for correctly identifying a spade from a shovel :cigar:
    I'm sure even those that did like him and knew how he got his pocket money business foundation from, :whistling:can see the non malicious intent of my comment.
    For the record... He was far from my friend, no legend in my eyes and after being on the receiving end of a few of his tirades on FB and in pm's on here, for merely pointing out some potential flaws in his gas windsheild.
    My cap still has its place at the back of the door ready to be worn.
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  15. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

  16. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    Just launched: Ocelot Windscreens for the Soto Amicus, Soto WindMaster (3 & 4 Flex) and the Original PocketRocket
    https://www.flatcatgear.com/product-category/ocelot/
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    Ocelot Soto Amicus
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    Ocelot: Soto WindMaster 3 Flex
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    Ocleot: Soto WindMaster 4 Flex (support arms must be folded inward to clear the windscreen)
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    Ocelot: PocketRocket - Original
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  17. Stumpghes

    Stumpghes Summit Camper

    Could someone tell me what the difference is between Amicus and Windmaster? Why do both models exist?
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  18. Foxster

    Foxster Section Hiker

    The Amicus is a bit smaller - it'll pack easier in small pots. It also has the advantage of attached pot supports, they are fiddly (IMHO) on the Windmaster.

    The Windmaster tends to boil water slightly quicker because of the bigger burner head. It also does marginally better in very high wind because the head is closer to your pot.

    Honestly, they are both great stoves and you'd not go wrong with either. I have both but now use the Amicus simply because it packs smaller.
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  19. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    the Windmaster existed first. It has a micro regulator. The 2 types of pot support detach for packing.
    The Amicus came later and uses a similar burner head but has no microregulator and the pot supports are attached.
  20. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    From interwebs.

    They're basically the same stove except for the pot supports. The removable WindMaster 3-prong support is lighter than the attached 4 prong Amicus. The 0.5 ounce extra allows for a larger pot support that collapses nicely.
  21. Stumpghes

    Stumpghes Summit Camper

    Thank you!
  22. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    The Soto Amicus is less expensive ($40 USD, no igniter) that the WindMaster 4 Flex ($65 USD with igniter), There are a lot more reviews on teh WindMaster and it is an excellent stove. The 3 Flex is a better option for mugs and the 4 Flex supports mugs as well as larger pots. Both stoves are well engineered and are highly recommended. IMO the Soto, WindMaster is superior to the PocketRocket Deluxe.
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  23. Robert P

    Robert P Ultralighter

    I went for the Windmaster because of the micro regulator (which the Amicus doesn't have) - should give a more consistent flame, particularly in cold conditions
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  24. Foxster

    Foxster Section Hiker

    I found it makes surprisingly little difference, unlike on some stoves. The only difference I found was that with the regulator it's a tiny bit easier to turn the valve but you'd have to be pretty feeble for it to be important.
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  25. Jon Fong

    Jon Fong Trekker

    I myself would not choose a stove with a micro-regulator. All that it can do is limit the pressure available, not increase the pressure. I also would not invest in an auto lighter: the long term reliability has not been great. My 2 cents.
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