Discussion in 'Kit Lists' started by Gordon, Feb 14, 2020.
A lot more than I took last year - but, as you say, personal.
Got to love a gear list. Always interesting to see the contents of someone’s pack.
@Gordon - You'd be familiar with quite a lot I carry in my pack.
TGO is going to be XMidTastic this year
Gordon, just realised I caught you sleeping in Glen Tilt on the 14 or 15 (maybe 13) TGOC you were heading for the Tarf hotel after a crap night in Blair Athol, I was heading to Bynack Lodge after about 15 hours sleep in Blair.
Just reread my post on TGOC 2014 - the year I forgot to look after my feet.
I had left Blair after a night in a hotel to die in.
I had managed to turn my right foot into mush a few days earlier and progress was slow...
I remember when I got my Trailstar they were a bit of a rarity: it will be interesting to see how many X-Mids ( new kids on the block ) will be used on the TGOC.
You mean "new (x-)mids on the block"
As Gordon published his excellent kit list, I thought I would share mine. It is a Kg heavier than Gordons' a tad over 12kg (but less than 2018) and may change depending on the weather forecast. As he says it can be 20f or 20c. I know a lot on here are hardy types and use a crisp packet as a bivvy and snack on crumbs from chisellers' beard but I like to be warm, dry and well fed. Most of the kit is known to most and well tried and tested.
Constructive comments are welcome
You have some good gear. Hike your own Hike. I like to be warm, dry and well fed too; it is dangerous not to be. I do it with a 5.32 Kg base weight. It took me many years to get that low. I was fortunate that I never had hiked with a traditional pack.
It is always difficult to comment on a gear list as its tantamount to saying you have wasted your money and bought the wrong stuff; which never goes down well; et a copy of Mike Clellands Ultralight Backpacking Tips and/or Don Lanigans Lighten Up.
I would look at clothing, techy stuff, cooking.
I haven't done the TGOC but met some when I did the Cape Wrath Trail; on which I rarely carried more than five days food; surely there will be shops, pubs where food can be found. I was going to survive a couple of days on Kendall Mint Cake as back up but it was not necessary. I have carried seven days food in bear canister on the JMT in the US Sierras. I was pleased when I had eaten some of it.
I cut my teeth on the Appalachian Trail In the US and just about changed all gear on route, not clothes though.
I learnt food and water management is key; it is heavy .I have the clothes that I walk in plus rain gear,OR Helium Jckt and Rain Skirt ,and change at night to silk long johns and silk long sleeved T shirt. Was never to fussed about regular laundry other than socks and underclothes which was done in a stream .In town in laundromat I would wash everything and watch it go round sat in rain gear.
Before anyone jumps in about US conditions , with the same format i have done most of the EU Gr 5 and a GBEnd to End
Intersting list @NEEpps - very similar to what I cary for my standard 3-4 nighter, although mine's a good 1.5kg less on the baseweight. Just various savings adding up. I'd echo @lakeshore in suggesting a look at your electricals and clothing if you want a lighter pack, plus perhaps the pack itself and that rain cover and sleeping mat.
I know that getting close to 6kg baseweight or less is something I probably won't achieve, but my current 7kg(ish) is a world apart from where I was 10 years ago, so I'm content.
@dovidola @lakeshore thanks for your comments. Made a couple of changes. Will have to add some river crossing shoes, but will see nearer the time. Don't find the vivos that comfy but have some Arcterycx ones that I may take. Depends if the weather is going to be warm and I want to walk in them as well.
Mat is heavy. I've tried numerous mats including Exped and Klymit, I also have a STS Uninsulated and a regular size STS insulated. Just cannot get on with a regular sized mat, my arms hang off the sides and get cold and I'll be camping high so expect the temps to be below freezing.
Between Aviemore and Ballater there are no shops, so it will be 4 days without stocking up (3 at the start) and only Aviemore (day 7) will have gas or meths. When you weigh up the gas package along side the caldera cone, stove, meths and bottle, the meths setup is heavier but is lighter after day 4.
Be interested on your take on electricals. Need to go 4 days without mains charger then need to charge the powerpack, phone and possibly watch. May be able to get away with an Anker 5200?
The pack cover is heavy but also doubles up as a travel cover as the pack is going in the aircraft hold. I got the pack wrapped last time (£25 it was a bit of a waste) and just took a std rain cover. Still trying to think of a better option.
Frameless pack if I was you age
I was able to use my iPhone 6 for a 4-day/night hike with one backup charge from a 3250mAh (68g) power pack and still have the phone half charged at the end.
I've now replaced it with an iPhone 11 and trialled using it the same way, with the result that I'm confident no power pack is necessary at all.
Of course it depends how much you're going to use it, but my phone spends nearly all its time on a hike in Airplane Mode, is used as an occasional Satnav, a few photos, barometer readings, a couple of books, a bit of music, and that's about all. No other electricals apart from a headtorch, which holds enough power for my use over a hike. My watch is mechanical. I understand some others have a greater need for gizmos and their use, so it's an individual thing.
Not sure about a frameless pack either, it might be the next thing I try - but if it's a less comfortable/efficient, then it's not worth the weight saving imo.
I use Lenovo p2a42 phone, a bit heavy but has a three day battery. Dependant on the hike I charge in pub or cafe, sometimes I take a power bank,6oz, or my old smartphone,4oz,which also as mapping, that phone has a different service provider which is useful in the wilds. I use the phone for mapping but take paper ones as well. Again depending on availability of a charge possibilities I sometimes only switch the phone on for a location check and can then use it for more than three days.
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