Hammock on the ground? Good options?

Discussion in 'Hammock Kit' started by liamarchie, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. liamarchie

    liamarchie Ultralighter

    Heading to Norway in the summer, lots of tree's where im going to thinking of taking a flexible set up that will allow me to go to ground or go suspended if i need to.

    Going to be taking a Trailstar, but instead of a inner im thinking taking a bugnet hammock which i can hang or put on the ground as a bug bivy.

    I've earmarked the Snugpak Jungle hammock as it looks big, cheap and has some attachment points to tension the net should i go to ground with it.

    http://www.outdoorgb.com/p/Snugpak_...rG-3CngqkGO6I-jvjCbnCjLeQCYidJVkaAmwzEALw_wcB

    Are there any close alternatives that would be suitable for what im intending but at less weight? The full kit works out about 790g, seems quite heavy when you add the tarp on top but i dont know enough about hammocks to know for certain

    cheers
  2. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Bug netted hammocks work quite well on the ground with it all attached to the poles that hold your tarp up, it's the bottom damage issue that is the problem.

    There is no easy answer to dual ground/hammock setups. The problem is stabbing/cutting a hole in the hammock body from things on the ground....any weakness will likely rip and dump you on the floor. At best, this is entertaining until the laughing stops :) If your not bothered by this, a lot of your difficulties are solved TBH. Not for me though, a busted back is no fun, nor is a low slung back breaking hammock and tarp.

    If you want to use your hammock on the ground without worry, you'll need to stop the damage from the ground and that means;
    limited number of nights on very soft and well inspected grass/ soft forgiving ground.
    take a heavy hammock that will take the abuse,
    or use a groundsheet/ wide mat that will stop rocks/sharp twigs etc.

    I have had reasonable success using a bathtub groundsheet as an underquilt and putting a sleep mat between the bathtub and hammock, but that needs some mods to it to shape the groundsheet.

    You don't need the Clarke, just a single layer netted hammock at least. Plenty come in at much less than that weight. A double layer hammock does work when you put a sleep mat inside the layers, but it's a right pain....the mat moves about, is never wide enough and is hard to adjust whilst in the hammock to get comfy.

    To do this the lightest way, you're going to want a 1 oz ultralight netted hammock, big polycryo groundsheet and mat wide enough to give you shoulder warmth( I use a couple of 60g foil/2mm foam windcsreen reflectors ) ...with all the lines and straps, it'll come in at around 1kg for the lot. Add a troublesome in the hammock comfy mat for ground comfort and wobbly in hammock experience.
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  3. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Hammock in a Trailstar, hammock on the ground, wrong, wrong, wrong :)

    I'd probably go with a decent lightweight hammock and tarp as my primary setup and chuck in a lightweight bivvy to use on the deck under the tarp if you need to go to ground.
  4. Stu Sibley

    Stu Sibley Summit Camper

    You could bring along an additional sheet of polycro to use as a ground sheet instead of the hammock? Not too much extra in the weight department
  5. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I'm guessing the hammock is for bug protection? They'll be intense in Norway during the summer months
  6. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Scandinavian mossies in season are worse than midges. Using the huge bug net a hammock provides and is already carried is a no brainer....a polycro groundsheet to protect the hammock weighs less than a bivvy anway.
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  7. liamarchie

    liamarchie Ultralighter

    Yep, mostly ants They're ****ing everywhere in the forest. Mozzies dont seem to like my flavour.

    I'm just trying to make use of what i've got if possible and multipurpose it
  8. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

  9. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    Some go SUL
    Some just go SUH and save the weight of the L. Mind you, once you colour the T in red it all gets heavier again. ;)
  10. Scotty Von Porkchop

    Scotty Von Porkchop Ultralighter

    I've always been reticent to use a hammock and the ground but it works just fine, I prefer to use the detachable full or partial length bug nets (fronkey or HUG style) and hang it from the Hex tarp, less chance of damage and its a bit easier to get in and out of.
  11. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    If you put groundsheet, mat, then hammock, you have less chance of damaging hammock... no?
  12. Scotty Von Porkchop

    Scotty Von Porkchop Ultralighter

    Absolutely, but I tend to end up with the quilt by my feet, mat to the side somewhere, mud on my socks and me waking up on the ground sheet. Normal people should be fine.
  13. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

    But like you say, if you have separate bugnet, then you can eschew hammock entirely.

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