Hello everyone :)

Discussion in 'Intros & Welcomes' started by Calvin, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Hi everyone. I'm Calvin and I am just beginning my hiking and backpacking journey. Some quick research pointed me towards lighter base weights and some research on reddit and here resulted in this kit list which I've just finished buying lighterpack.com/r/iq5p6m
    (note for lighter pack, I haven't weighed anything myself so weights are either estimated or from specifications)
    In retrospect I should have asked for advice before starting to buy but I think made reasonable choices balancing weight and cost.
    Currently based in Edinburgh but will be moving down south within a few months (terrible timing to become interested in hiking) but hope to get a few trips in before I move.

    Outdoor experience so far is just some gentle day hikes and car camping so looking forward to any advice!
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  2. Heltrekker

    Heltrekker Trail Blazer

    Hi Calvin, welcome :)
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  3. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

    I hope you’ve got lots of money :asshat:
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  4. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Thanks heltrekker.
    Cheers baldy, already spent a few bob so hopefully no one finds any glaring flaws in the setup
  5. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Welcome to the liteside :thumbsup:
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  6. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

    @Calvin

    before splashing out on new stuff ask here if somebody is selling whatever you need ;)
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  7. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    Welcome
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  8. Rmr

    Rmr Trail Blazer

    Plenty of great advice on here, welcome.
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  9. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Thanks Chiseller, Munro and Rmr.

    @Baldy I've kept an eye on the classifieds here but nothing came up. That's me hopefully finished buying for now though I'm sure the upgrade bug will hit soon enough
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  10. Diddi

    Diddi Thru Hiker

    Welcome Calvin :thumbsup:
    That's some expensive water you have there :eek:
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  11. Birchlover

    Birchlover Backpacker

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  12. Michael_x

    Michael_x Ultralighter

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  13. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    @Diddi had me confused for a second haha. I do think that 40 quid for a sawer squeeze vs 25 for a mini seemed a bit much but general consensus seems that its worth it for the flow rate?

    Cheers @Birchlover and @Michael_x
  14. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    Welcome :)
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  15. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Cheers Dave
  16. Diddi

    Diddi Thru Hiker

    Could have sworn it read just water ? :wideyed: :eggonface: hence my post :D
  17. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    It did! I had the filter in its own section labelled water for some reason...
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  18. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    Hi Calvin and welcome :)
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  19. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Cheers tartanferret
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  20. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Welcome to the forum Calvin :)
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  21. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Cheers Shewie :)
  22. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    Wecome @Calvin - a few thoughts about your 3-season lighterpack.com kit list if I may for your consideration:

    1.75kg for your sleep system is a bit weighty, but lighter bags/mats giving the same performance cost a lot. Swapping your 170g pillow for a 67g Sea2Summit Aeros Ultralight (Large) wouldn't cost much though. Try one for comfort first if you can, because pillows are a personal thing.

    Ditto your waterproofs - lighter alternatives are going to be quite costly.

    Toothbrush and Toothpaste and Sanitiser at 50g each? Easy wins here - decant what you'll need into small containers and cut down the brush handle of a lighter toothbrush (over 100g saved).

    First Aid Kit - each to their own but I find making up my own is both lighter and more comprehensive than buying a pre-made-up kit.

    There is a compass - what about a map?

    Water Filter -I don't think the Squeeze weighs 150g? Or are you including your water bottles, fuel bottle and other ancilliaries (not mentioned elsewhere in the list)?

    Do you really need a 10,000 mAh (200g) power pack?

    The trouble with this site is that people come along with 'helpful' suggestions....
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  23. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

  24. Calvin

    Calvin Backpacker

    Thanks for the feedback @dovidola , appreciated. Yeah I definitely didn't make the lightest choices but my budget was limited, especially as I'm new to hiking and therefore had to 1. Buy a complete setup and 2. Limit cost in case it turns out I hate spending the night outside!

    1.75kg for your sleep system is a bit weighty, but lighter bags/mats giving the same performance cost a lot. Swapping your 170g pillow for a 67g Sea2Summit Aeros Ultralight (Large) wouldn't cost much though. Try one for comfort first if you can, because pillows are a personal thing.

    Had a try of other pillows before but this one has been much better for my sleep, I'll probably try again in the future after i upgrade some other stuff.

    Ditto your waterproofs - lighter alternatives are going to be quite costly.
    The over-trousers were a gift, a new jacket is my next purchase though as the current one is just my normal day-to-day jacket. any recommendations?

    Toothbrush and Toothpaste and Sanitiser at 50g each? Easy wins here - decant what you'll need into small containers and cut down the brush handle of a lighter toothbrush (over 100g saved).
    I'll probably do this, seems easy enough.

    First Aid Kit - each to their own but I find making up my own is both lighter and more comprehensive than buying a pre-made-up kit.

    This was to appease a worried mother, will probably modify it as I figure out what is/isn't needed.

    There is a compass - what about a map?
    Haven't started yet ergo no maps! Will be added when I get one haha

    Water Filter -I don't think the Squeeze weighs 150g? Or are you including your water bottles, fuel bottle and other ancilliaries (not mentioned elsewhere in the list)?
    Probably rounded up to account for bits and bobs, as I said I havent weighed anything personally so numbers are a bit fudged.


    Do you really need a 10,000 mAh (200g) power pack?

    No but its the one i already have :whistling:

    What did you think overall for a first setup? You didn't mention anything missing apart from the maps/bottles which will be sorted.
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  25. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    Looks like you're on the right tracks to me @Calvin

    Great choice of pack (which helps with the rest!), lightweight but spacious budget shelter which should be fine as long as you avoid the strongest winds - but make sure you practise setup thoroughly before venturing out for real, as these trekking pole supported freestanding tents totally depend on a good pitch.

    My waterproof jacket is a Columbia Titanium Outdry Extreme (don't you just love these ridiculous names), 235g in XL, which works well enough for the weight but I wouldn't rave about it - I've still got my Arcteryx Theta AR Goretex Pro (550g) for colder conditions or if I'm expecting particularly nasty conditions. Others on this site are better informed than me about clothing, so I'd go with their advice.
    If it's not too cold and I'm not expecting much in the way of rain I don't bother with overtrousers as I wear gaiters anyway, but otherwise I have Berghaus Paclite GTX overtrousers which are, frankly, brilliant (235g).

    You may wish to add a sun hat of some description, depending on your fancy, and a lighter buff for summer conditions.

    Gary at speedsterstoves.co.uk sells little plastic tubes and such stuff for your ointments, creams, pastes etc.

    My advice is not to worry about your kit too much for the moment - your basics are there, just get out and enjoy it, and don't be in too much of a hurry to buy new kit. Give yourself some time to see what works best for you, because one size definitely doesn't fit all at this game.
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