Inov8 next year...

echo8876

Thru Hiker
inov-8 are awesome shoes with awful lacing for my feet. I wish i could make them work, since their feel, specs and materials are next level.
it just something about eyelets vs loops lacing that doesnt let the pressure hug my foot just so. It just feels that eyelets pull whole side of the shoe cinched as opposed to fine tuning of each loop pair, and the only way to finetune is to skip an eyelet.
 

Bear

Ultralighter
Popped in to the Kendal Mountain Festival on way back from Scotland.

The inov8 rep said that next season's trail shoe models will be coming out in 2 width fittings with the wide ones having a roomier natural toebox.

We will see. Toes crossed.
This is great news! Brilliant shoes but always struggled with the narrow toe box.
 

stalemate

Ultralighter
Inov-8s are my brand. The graphene stuff is actually not bullshit and translates into greater durability in my experience.

Great company. Better than Hokas and Altras IMO.
 

Robert P

Thru Hiker
Popped in to the Kendal Mountain Festival on way back from Scotland.

The inov8 rep said that next season's trail shoe models will be coming out in 2 width fittings with the wide ones having a roomier natural toebox.

We will see. Toes crossed.
Looks like the first of these models (Mudtalon Speed, there may be others?) is out, with two width fittings. Hopefully that works for a wide range of people.
Personally I've largely moved away from Inov8 (fit and durability), but for running in winter mud it is difficult to beat the grip.
 

Teepee

Thru Hiker
They used to do lasts that fitted my 2E feet, but as others have found these seemed to have disappeared for a good few years and Inov8 have been completely ruled out.

The wide Mud Talon pics say they have a good chance of once again fitting with the bigger toe-box, and I like the sole grip. They remind me of my old and beloved Walsh Spirit peaks.
 

AlanL

Backpacker
I find Inov8 frustrating. Experimentation and improvement are well & good, but my experience with them has been that whenever I find a shoe that works for me, it goes out of production the following year. Which does, however, mean that I can usually pick up one last pair of as a very cheap remainder.

I heard something similar from a running shop owner: he said he'd stopped doing business with them, because they wanted to insist on him stocking too many constantly changing models
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Looks like the first of these models (Mudtalon Speed, there may be others?) is out, with two width fittings. Hopefully that works for a wide range of people.
Personally I've largely moved away from Inov8 (fit and durability), but for running in winter mud it is difficult to beat the grip.
Hopefully something more useful for me will be available soon.

I've actually been wearing boots the last few winter walks. Did 20something km yesterday in the crazy gales on Dartmoor. The first time I've not had a rub or blister. Changed to sorbothane insoles instead of superfeet, and much better.

My 2 currently used trail shoe models, whilst good for 3 season use, just don't have the forefoot space when lacing loosened to allow room for the extra layer of waterproof socks I like when it's really cold n wet together, as it has been this midwinter here.
My last pair of stashed Inov8 Terrocs finally wore out last winter. I had hoped the La Sportiva Jackals would do as they are roomy enough, but they rub my achilles unpleasantly. Possibly the Jackal 2s might work as they look different around the heel rim.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I saw a sale advert by Inov8 on Monday, and they had these, which I'd not seen before.

Took a punt. Next day delivery £66 all in.

They have a much roomier toebox than other Inov8s I've been able to try on, and definitely feel like they'll work for me. Slightly stacked compared to what I'm currently used to, but should be comfy. I'll give em a go.
 

echo8876

Thru Hiker
Exceptional quality shoes, fit great, but they ruined a good mountain weekend for me.
They seem to be made for trails and hill walks with relatively mild gradient, not for mountains.
Even if i sinch them to the point of pain, they fold upon themselves on steep descents and far from perfect when traversing steep slope.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Exceptional quality shoes, fit great, but they ruined a good mountain weekend for me.
They seem to be made for trails and hill walks with relatively mild gradient, not for mountains.
Even if i sinch them to the point of pain, they fold upon themselves on steep descents and far from perfect when traversing steep slope.
Thanks. I'll probably be mostly using them for UK hiking with only occasional rocky terrain use.

Though I'd say my old Roclite 295s had thinner soles, less protection and felt just as flexible. And I got on fine with them in mountain terrain (to my level of use)

I suspect that as a regular mountain hiker, you are more used to stiffer mountain boots/approach shoes, so maybe have different expectations of footwear and possibly different technique than me when walking in scree/steep rock?


When hiking in the Pyrenees (or Scotland even), I regularly see folk in B2 boots/approach shoes being much more brutal with their movements and foot placement on rocky terrain than I would. I think maybe having more ankle protection and/or stiffness in footwear makes a person approach rocky ground differently than someone wearing light flexible footwear.

Analogous to changing running technique when using zero drop shoes?
 

echo8876

Thru Hiker
I mean i walked same route in decathlon tr2 runners that are much more flexible than these and la sportiva jackals that dont have heel same as these, without any problems.
I think it's more about being made for purpose.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I mean i walked same route in decathlon tr2 runners that are much more flexible than these and la sportiva jackals that dont have heel same as these, without any problems.
I think it's more about being made for purpose.
Fair enough
I don't know the decathlons. I have the Jackals though. Much stiffer sole?
 

Myles21

Section Hiker
I’m finding the Roclites aren’t really working for me. In normal size they squeeze my toes, when I go up a size my heel slips, even when laces up tight, causing quite severe heel pain. I really like the durability of the sole though. The Trailfly G 270 v2 looks interesting. Has Inov8’s widest toe box and is zero drop.
 
The new Mudtalon (not the mudtalon speed) is due out in March. I'm more than likely going to buy a pair in wide fit. They look a great shoe for fell walking aswell as running. How well they will drain compared to the last iteration of mudclaw,is a concern. The mudclaw G260 v2 have been a great shoe for me and have worked well on hard ground. I don't rate the graphene grip hype and in my experience, is vastly over hyped.

I don't expect huge miles from the soles of the latest ones that have reverted to their 'sticky rubber' when used equally on hard dry trails, but I do rate the grip on wet and dry rock, more than the graphene mix.

Now that cobblers are frequently resoling trainers of most brands with vibram units, Litebase, peak district and others, it makes some trainers more of an appealing buy if there is confidence of the uppers lasting.
 

stalemate

Ultralighter
I saw a sale advert by Inov8 on Monday, and they had these, which I'd not seen before.

Took a punt. Next day delivery £66 all in.

They have a much roomier toebox than other Inov8s I've been able to try on, and definitely feel like they'll work for me. Slightly stacked compared to what I'm currently used to, but should be comfy. I'll give em a go.

Bargain. I've got the same pair.

If they have wider toe box sizes, a zero drop offering, maintain the same quality with the graphene, and make the Americans aware then they win.
 

Robin

Moderator
Staff member
Bargain. I've got the same pair.

If they have wider toe box sizes, a zero drop offering, maintain the same quality with the graphene, and make the Americans aware then they win.
I’ve got two pairs and the mid version. They are brilliant.
 

echo8876

Thru Hiker
today i learned not to trust laminated toe bumper of inov
when walking it barely works
when running it doesnt work.
remarkable lesson it was. the more i use it, the more i believe whole brand identity is fell, not mountains. The make crazy good city shoes though, at their 50 pounds sale pricepoint.
 
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