Lighter rainwear

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Graham, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    I have a couple of solo extended thru-hikes planned for 2016 and have been researching some alternatives to cost-efficiently reduce my Base Pack Weight.

    Shelter, sleep system, pack, kitchen and other clothing are about as light as I can go :thumbsup: but my raingear is pretty heavy so I’m thinking about selling my: Rab Drillium jacket, Montane Venture pants and Extremities Tuff Bags (Total: 927g); and replacing them with Montane Minimus Smock, Pants and Mitts (Total: 340g).

    Another thought is just to swap the pants and mitts, as I doubt the Minimus Pertex Shield material is as robust as eVent and the jacket will be taking most of the wear.

    Any comments/feedback on Montane’s Minimus kit would be much appreciated as would other cost-effective weight-saving recommendations.
  2. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Where are the thru-hokes, Graham. That might have some bearing on the kit's suitability.
  3. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Hi WilliamC - South West Coastal Trail UK in Feb/Mar. Could be any kind of weather but wind-driven rain is a cert.

    Kungsleden, Sweden north to south June. From what I've read mainly sharp showers.
  4. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Personally think you'd regret Minimus for the SWCP if there is no option to avoid the heavy weather . The newer pertex shield is not very robust for an everyday wear jacket. or particularly breathable. I'd view it as a just in case jacket in winter

    I'd want good breathability. The SWCP has more ups and downs per mile than the pennine way. Some steep pulls.

    I'd take the Drillium and get some berghaus paclite pants. And keep the mitts.
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  5. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Agree with Mole

    I have Minimus trousers and they're rubbish.
    They don't breath well even when dry, they wet out after a few hours of rain and i ripped the arse out of mine in 2 days use.
    Granted i was scootching off rocks and it was very windy, but i've done worse in my precip's

    The rab flashpoint jacket is getting some love on the US forums, never seen one never mind worn one though
  6. Robin

    Robin Moderator Staff Member

    I had a Montane Minimus jacket. Although the design was good, I didn't like Pertex Shield at all. Sweaty and uncomfortable. New stuff is supposed to be better. If you want lightweight waterproofs, have a look at Marmot Essence jacket and trews. The NanoPro Membrain fabric is very breathable although not that robust. The jacket is a trim fit, so worth sizing up. I like mine a lot.
  7. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Cheers! +1 on the Drillium jkt, it's been a good investment. The mitts are goners, they weigh 191g for the pair - they're the old, old Tuff Bags. MLD have some lightweight eVent mitts, I'll think about those. Paclite pants, hmm...I'll think about that.
  8. Munro277

    Munro277 Thru Hiker

    Rab Demand smock L 302 g Paclite pants L 252 g tuff bags 73g
  9. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Cheers gixer, just been looking at the UOG website for the Flashpoint - haven't been there for a while.

    The Rab marketing department must have had an 'off site' theme - like, just how many names can we come up with. Here's what UOG are selling from Rab, they might not have the FULL range: Flashpoint, Spark, Muztag, Charge, Zenith, Newton, Maverick, Neo Alpine, Myriad (Ha, ha Rab), Xiom, Latok Alpine, Neo Guide, Latok.

    I think they've covered all the bases there!
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  10. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Thanks Robin. I don't want to be testing Montane's "new stuff" tbh. The Minimus feedback is pretty consistent :thumbsdown:.

    I'll add the Marmot as a possible.
  11. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    Thanks Munro277 - anything in particular to commend the Demand smock?

    When I bought the Venture eVent pants, I deliberately avoided Paclite material as it just felt flimsy and I thought I'd wear the backside out in no time.

    Newer rain mitts, are looking like a relatively cheap and risk-free way to lose > 100g. Cheers!
  12. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    A "just in case jacket" is what the Minimus is, like an expensive Packamac IMO.

    What are you wearing under the tuff-bags? gloves? In which case.. plastic gloves from the petrol station?

    Just a thought from a chap considering making cuben mitts ;):)
  13. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Rab Demand - I rate mine :thumbsup:. But no longer made (AFAIK) and they are like hens teeth.
  14. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    My Montane Minimus Smock is my 'rain unlikely but I've got to take a waterproof' jacket - anything more than showers and I don't take it.
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  15. Diddi

    Diddi Thru Hiker

    Haglofs Lim Paclite jacket still going strong after many years of abuse on the hill in my pack & Sunday kids footy,tougher than you think.
    Rab demand smock very breathable but leaked on zip wetting my chest first time i wore it in a shower if not done up fully.
    Tho i doubt you will find one for sale now.
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2015
  16. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    "As if by magic" this appeared in my inbox today

    178g and some features i really like (gloves and hood), likely it won't be as breathable as say eVENT but if it's got decent underarm zips that should help massively.
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  17. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Good features, but I wouldn't think the fabric would be any better performance than the Minimus at that weight.
  18. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Agreed, but pit zips make a massive difference in my experience.

    T'other thing i like is this tunnel thing in the hood at 3:45



    Of course it's all just speculation without having tried it, but at least the features seem to be a pretty logical idea.

    I've got one on my "when capital controls are dropped shopping list", way things are going they might even be at a good discount by then as next years version will be out :(
  19. Diddi

    Diddi Thru Hiker

    Pitzips are just big holes in your arms not great in rain but great in winter when climbing in snow.
    Far too short for wearing with a pack and it raised above his belt easily by moving his arms @ 4.30.
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  20. Evan Davies

    Evan Davies Trail Blazer

    I've seen one in the flesh. Nice ideas. Not executed best though.
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  21. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    **** me! Raise an arm and that guy's midriff would be exposed. Ridiculously short.
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  22. Wurz

    Wurz Summit Camper

    That looks crap. And what's with the writing all over it? I love pit zips though.
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  23. Robin

    Robin Moderator Staff Member

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    The Marmot Essence jacket has neat underarm mesh vents, covered on the outside by a flap. Virtually no extra weight but good enhanced ventilation.
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  24. Wurz

    Wurz Summit Camper

    Don't know much about it but you can get the Precip for £50ish. complete with pit zips and a proper flap over the zip.
  25. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

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