Just a follow-on from the Softshell thread. I'm looking at cooler weather upper layers and am wondering if I can improve on my current set up. I like my R1 + Houdini but I do find the cut of both to be just a bit too fitted. Rather than just sizing up I thought I'd see what options there are for mid/outer layers. I'm not including rain shells here, as I prefer to keep mine in my pack until it's really needed. I'd really be interested to know what people recommend for cooler weather. It seems that there's the system I'm using already, which I like and could happily go for again: the baselayer + fleece midlayer + windshirt combo. Or there's baselayer + a windproof softshell. Or baselayer + pile-pertex (maybe including some Polartec Alpha jackets with a windproof outer fabric). And lastly baselayer + Paramo. There are probably lots of other variations and many personal preferences. A lot of the tops being sold recently seem to be aimed at high intensity activity where garments need to be able to dump a lot of heat and moisture. I'm more of a hillwalker and backpacker so I'd be concerned that some of these tops favour breathability over warmth and windproofness - fine for when you're working hard but what about when you're taking your time on a ridge and there's a cold wind blowing? Anyway, any tips much appreciated, as always.