My 3 Season Hammock kit list

Discussion in 'Hammock Kit' started by ElteeOberonus, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    I see there isn't a great deal of action on the hammock front here on trek-lite. Tbh I don't hammock as often as I camp on the ground but I do enjoy a good hang. Thought I'd share my current list of gear that I use for 3 season hanging in local woodlands. It's not exhaustive as sometimes I may take an alcohol stove and a bigger pot and sometimes I may not take a stove at all. Also (and please don't shoot me) I may occasionally have a small fire in the colder months and cook over that. For those who are wondering I always keep it small and always use the same spots to which I have returned year after year.

    The list:
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  2. Bob-W

    Bob-W Trail Blazer

    Interesting. I just so happened to watch a video yesterday comparing ground vs hammock camping. Looks like about 800g - 1000g difference between the setups, basically hammock and underquilt extra assuming that you don't use a bivy bag along with the tarp.

    No midge net for the hammock or are you content with just using the head net?

    Err, gas stove but no gas? :unsure:
  3. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

  4. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    No gas listed as that would come under consumables I could list the weight of an empty canister I suppose.

    Yeah no netting other than the headnet. I have had a hammock with a built in net in the past but I get on with this setup well enough. There are mesh 'cocoons' available out there if bug pressure was really bad but locally it isn't too bad.
  5. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Nice list :thumbsup: Scott made good gear when he actually did make it :rolleyes:

    I think it can be 1kg depending on gear choices. Comparing a double wall UL tent at say 8-900g you can have a light hammock and suspension at around 250g, a winter tarp with doors at around 500g and a fronkey style bugnet at (I can't remember how much) and there is a little difference but if you don't use hiking poles you're tent will usually be heavier, can leave the bugnet at home etc.

    I've only had 2 nights in my hammock this year :drowning:
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  6. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    Yeah a pity about Scott but health and wellbeing have to come first.

    Yeah a kilo is about right for most people's setups. I don't have the lightest tarp but then I don't have the lightest tent either

    Only had two nights in the hammock this year too with a third penned in for next weekend
  7. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    not been in my hammock since last year. I’m forcing myself to go straight from work tomorrow.
    Currently torn between tarp choice, swapped my winter palace for old faithful “blend in” Superfly 10 mins ago.
    Gonna stick with the Blackbird hammock for ease of use, the other stuff ‘ain’t fine tuned enough.
  8. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    I spent last week hammocking outside. It was the worst midging I've ever had. I'd be double checking the insects and wind levels, there are still clouds of Clegs and mossies here.
    I usually tough it out but this year has seen my bug net hammock used more than any I can remember.

    As for weights, it works out about 300g for me. Any extra weight carried for suspension and the hammock is replaced by extra pegs and a bathtub groundsheet. I do use a big sil 800g 4.5 x 3.2m tarp with doors , but it needn't be this massive or indeed any heavier than a light 'mid, etc
  9. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    Midges <shudder> luckily they're not a problem on the flats of Lincolnshire but mozzies can be. All right around a fire if they get bad and then by the time it's time to get in the hammock I'm too merry to care. Maybe the little blighters aren't so keen on claret that's mostly alcohol...?

    As for setting up and tuning I simplified my setup by doing away with tree straps, toggles and whoopies and now i just have a couple of tarp tapes I got off Scotty which I Beckitt Hitch to the continuous loops at the ends of my hammock. The tarp is easily deployed out of the snake skins with dyneema lines already attached.

    Just talking about it has me itching to get out! Not itching with mozzie bites hopefully.
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  10. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    Ah, but the sleep! That’s what I’m going for. That’s what I need!

    Cursory glance at the knockoff Woodgas stove and empty nalgene hipflask. Hmm
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  11. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    There's nothing quite like sleeping in a hammock Zzzzzz! My pal Marcus ended up trashing his Snugpak Coccoon last time we were out. I'd just got comfy swaying and all I heard was an almighty thud and cursing as he overturned all 17 stone onto the forest floor. I didn't laugh much honest. Told him before this that the Cocoon was dead weight and he ought to get a UQ. Virtually tore it in half that night.
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  12. The Cumbrian

    The Cumbrian Ultralighter

    I used my cocoon on a winter trip in Sweden and didn't like it at all. As soon as I got back to the UK I sold it. With hindsight I think that they're a solution to a nonexistent problem.
  13. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    I don't do too well with being fully enclosed myself anymore. Too many wet nights waking up in an old Goretex bivvy unable to find the way out and freaking out Part of the joy of hammocking for me is having the view of the woods around you. And the Cocoon is a pretty weighty and bulky bit of kit compared to a down underquilt and quilt.
  14. SafetyThird

    SafetyThird Section Hiker

    I've been experimenting with hammocks this year, have a suitable hammock and suspension sorted now and an old lidl tarp which needs upgrading really. My regular quilt works but I need to sort some form of under quilt before I can really hang for the night. It's on the list.
  15. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    You have just inspired me to do my first list @ElteeOberonus .

    This is pretty much what's been used on my last 3 overnights.
    Its not complete and things do come and go but its about the minimum I leave the house with.for a night or 2 away.

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  16. ElteeOberonus

    ElteeOberonus Backpacker

    Some nice and some intriguing kit on that list. The hammock and MYOG quilt's and tarp sound good. I'd be interested to see these in use if you have some photos or next time you're out.

    Odd that Eastons are my goto pegs for tenting but I use YBeams for in the woods still

    Nice light setup there, thanks for sharing.
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  17. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I had 6 nights hanging in the Cairngorms a few weeks ago, I’ll do a list tomorrow as I’ve not done one for a while.

    I find hanging trips to be more static or certainly less travelled than a ground trip, I’m more likely to move on after two or three nights rather than every day, for that reason I carry stuff I wouldn’t if tarping etc, my load outs are usually around 8-10kg with three season kit, fuel, food for three or four nights and a litre of water.

    That reminds me I need to put a CRL back on my WBSF and ditch the Stingerz
  18. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    "Nice and intriguing kit" are you just being polite.
    Kit changes often , hammock swapped to netless, bigger tarp, UQ, UQ shield etc for wet and windy weather and extra luxury items can make a big difference.

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  19. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    I've got rid of the CRL for the tarp @Shewie, never did like the hardware. 20190917_130053.jpg
  20. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I've been using a single line at each end of the tarp, round the tree and cinched into Stingerz, love the simplicity and nice V shape for the hammock suspension to go through, but it's wrecking the split rings on my Superfly, I had to bail on a trip to the Cairngorms last year when a juicy gust ripped my ring out (oo err) and I got a face full of tarp at 3am. I replaced them with 60lb rings and they still started bending on the last trip. At least if I go back to a CRL and prusiks the load is shared better and I can sleep more soundly :)

    What's going on in your pic, are you tying your tarp to your hammock suspension, Hennessy style I suppose?
  21. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Still work in progress, with stuff still missing, got a few things I haven't actually weighed yet and the food and fuel isn't accurate
  22. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    I just use a piece of line with a dutch hook on the tree end then a flyz or similar larksheaded to the tarp to tension. Means I can use smaller lengths of zing it on each end and can offset it on the tree. I normally offset hammock suspension on one side and tarp in the other then go the opposite way on the other side and never have issues with hammock suspension hitting the tarp lines.

    Tried suspending my tarp from hammock suspension but it takes a lot of pitching flexibility away. I pitch my tarp high whenever possible.
  23. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    i need a hammock trip. Had my thunderfly 2 years now i think and its still in the wrapping lol
  24. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    The pic is a bit unusual as i left the whoopies on as rather than a CL.
    Its a piece of line approx 50cm long with a loop tied at one end. The loop prussics around the tree strap hammock suspension and uses an evo loop type attachment to the tarp RL tieout, the remainder of the line can be used to allow the tarp to be raised higher and secured with a becket hitch to tarp RL tieouts.

    The thunderfly is obviously unloved @paul so you should let me have it.
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  25. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I’m in :)
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