My Brew Kit ..thread for your stove set up

SafetyThird

Section Hiker
I shall have to see what I can find, thanks Mole. I'm currently going through the various plastic containers in the tupperware drawer and fridge to see what might fit.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
If you want lightness, heat stability and rigidity, best getting an actual camping cup in my experience. Tupperware can be heavier and also hard to get a good edge if you have to cut it down. Lighter packaging usually is too thin when the structural edge is removed - flexes and sharp to the lips. I've been there! :)
 

Shewie

Chief Slackpacker
Staff member
I use a 500ml plastic microwaveable sauce tub, been using them for a good few years now. 27g and comfortable to hold with a hot brew inside
 

Enzo

Thru Hiker
For me, I've decided that any cup I carry has to be insulated in some way. Single skin ti and your coffee is cold in about 30 seconds. I guess the ultralight way would be to make a good cosy for your cook pot and use that but if its a good size for a cup that means you still need it to boil a second lot of water for dinner. So I'm trying a bigger pot so I can have enough water for a coffee whilst waiting for my food to rehydrate, and have the coffee still hot when the food is ready. Yet to find a solution I'm happy with that will fit in a pot so carrying a separate 450ml double skinned plastic screw top mug. Can be used to shake up malto powder too. ~100g, not ideal but In the right direction for me.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I use a 500ml plastic microwaveable sauce tub, been using them for a good few years now. 27g and comfortable to hold with a hot brew inside
These are useful. Can they fit in with your setup?

@SafetyThird is trying to find a solution which nests inside his pot/cone setup.
 
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Mole

Thru Hiker
For me, I've decided that any cup I carry has to be insulated in some way. Single skin ti and your coffee is cold in about 30 seconds. I guess the ultralight way would be to make a good cosy for your cook pot and use that but if its a good size for a cup that means you still need it to boil a second lot of water for dinner. So I'm trying a bigger pot so I can have enough water for a coffee whilst waiting for my food to rehydrate, and have the coffee still hot when the food is ready. Yet to find a solution I'm happy with that will fit in a pot so carrying a separate 450ml double skinned plastic screw top mug. Can be used to shake up malto powder too. ~100g, not ideal but In the right direction for me.

Above 5C is this a problem? Just drink the tea/coffee - don't let it sit around ;)
A 25-30g plastic mug/pot like me/Shewie suggest is surely good enough for this time of year until winter?
 

Padstowe

Thru Hiker
@SafetyThird Would a sea to summit x mug fit inside? Although they are that bit heavy with the top rim.
If you'd like one drop me a line, I have 2 that i picked up somewhere yonks ago at a bring & take thing. (am not looking for cash, its better to be used & i don't really use them anymore)
 
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Enzo

Thru Hiker
For me, I want to sip my coffee for a good 10 mins at night and I like to set off walking whilst still drinking in the morning so its a compromise I prefer. @Gadget had the best ul solution I've seen with a foil coffee pouch and cosy, just looked too fiddly to use for me, but it would fit in a pot.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
It's called a One Pint Mug. It weighs 65g and doesn't fit inside anything. I bought it at George Fisher in Ambleside for a pound circa 1978. Its thermoretentive properties seem to rival those insulated mugs I've tried, because of the thickness of the plastic possibly. It's also a great water scoop, and serves nocturnally as a HeWee. At 40 years old it stubbornly refuses to be replaced by a younger/lighter/more compact model, although I'd kick it into touch without hesitation if something appreciably lighter came along which ticked all the same boxes...

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SafetyThird

Section Hiker
Thanks for all the great replies.

@Padstowe thank you for such a kind offer, it might well fit the bill, I'll drop you a pm.

@dovidola I used to have one of those cups many years ago, was almost indestructible. Until I ran over it.

@Shewie I may have found a curry sauce tub that might work, have to wait until it's empty to try it.
 

benp1

Trail Blazer
I made a cosy from reflectex for my Snow Peak 450 mug, keeps my coffee hot for ages. Have a Ti lid to go with it. I use the mug to boil water to rehydrate a small meal and use the rest to have a hot drink, then do the same again (another meal and another hot drink).

Works very well with a lightweight meths set up
 

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
Our current options:
1) Best combination of weight and robustness. Based around a Toaks 550ml pot. Not the best option for meals needing more than about 400ml of water.
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2) Our favourite option for shorter trips where weight is less important. Almost indestructible so it can be packed in the rucksack on bus journeys. Based around a Toaks 750ml pot. The photo includes a carbon felt cloth as a pot lifter and a sitpad/come base for the stove which go with all the stove options.
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3) Our choice for trips where we're trying to save weight but are carrying double-portion meals that need more than 450ml of water. Based around a fosters pot. Cone from @theoctagon, which I have since butchered.
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JKM

Thru Hiker
Tried out my new stormin' stove last night, which is built around an Alpkit 900 pot. 600ml of ambient temp water to a rolling boil in 13mins. Not going to win any speed points but it is so quiet :)

What I need for my setup is a new mug as I'd like to fit everything except fuel into the pot. Currently I have a 600ml fold-a-cup which won't quite fit inside, a 350ml TiArtisan which is lovely but a little bit small, and a TiArtisan 650 which fits inside but is probably a bit big given I have a 900 pot to cook in and heavier than I'd like.

The 650 pot will become my day hike brew kit with a 100gm gas cylinder and the Soto Amicus inside as I can have a cuppa ready at a brew stop in under 2 minutes, which is handy when the weather's not great and you just want something quick and warming before you set off again.

So, any suggestions for a suitable cup?

No, I have to use the 900 pot as the cone is made for it so I need a different cup rather than a different pot, otherwise I'd have to buy a new cone to go with a new pot. A new cup is a lot cheaper

I use an alpkit 900 pot, 600 fold a cup and stormin cone in a tredlite gear drawstring sack. The sack is a bit short but I found I could put the cup upside down on top of the pot and still close the bag sufficiently for it all to be secure.

As this was not that asthetically pleaseing i asked paul to make me a slightly taller zipped potsack and a separate zipped cell just for the cup.
Now I put pot, cone, stove, lighter together in the main sack, then in other cell I put the cup (or two as the smaller fits in the larger) and a little bag of tea,coffee, etc and zip that up and place it on top of the pot, then zip up the main pot sack. Probably a few g more than necessary (mainly due to the zips) but far more asthetically pleaseing. It would be perfect if it had orange zips to compliment the orange cup.....

You could just get a slightly taller pot sack to accommodate the cup as well.
 

SafetyThird

Section Hiker
That's a nice idea. I'm exploring the option of everything nesting first but might keep that as a backup option for the future depending how I get on.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Another nesting setup.:yawn:

Looking to make the Toaks 700 work for me and include a mug in the equation. This precludes using a cone, as there isn't room.

I'm using the rollup corrugated foil windshield that came with my original Starlyte stove from Zelph back in 2010. I didn't ever use it because I was happy with using homemade Captain Paranoia cones.
Quick tests indoors indicate the usual 7-9 minutes for a 500ml boil , with 15-20ml fuel needed. Seems fine.


The wildo cup folded fits inside the pot. Some items store below, some inside.
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700ml Ti Pot Inc lid 83g (pot alone 62g)
Speedster 30ml stove in bag 13g.
Lighter 15g
Zelph Windscreen 16g
Bike spoke Potstand 13g
Foil baseplate 4g
Ti Spoon 13g
Wildo 600ml fold-a-cup 46g
Storage bag 12g
65ml fuel bottle with spout. ( Also fits in mug with spoon)
Room still for some coffee sachets/tea and milk powder.

Total of all, 231g. - Inc spoon and large mug.
 

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
I put the fold-a-cup in upside down - fits quite tightly so stops the contents from spilling out :).

Add the spoon and lighter to my set up and weights are almost identical :thumbsup:
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I guess the cups vary a little as they are flexible. Mine won't go in even halfway enough upside down. Even then, it's so tight, it's hard to remove. The way I have it, it comes out easy. I think there is a tiny taper on the pan too.
 

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
I guess the cups vary a little as they are flexible. Mine won't go in even halfway enough upside down. Even then, it's so tight, it's hard to remove. The way I have it, it comes out easy. I think there is a tiny taper on the pan too.

Odd :wideyed:. I've not detected any hint of a taper on my Toaks 700ml and I put the cup in upside down as it was so difficult to get it in 'right' way up I was worried I wouldn't get it out again. !!!??? :wacky:

HYOH :thumbsup:
 

ColinHawke

Ultralighter
So the Snow Leopard has been used in the real world a few times. 600ml of early May Dartmoor river water takes a tad over 10 minutes to boil with a ~50mm diameter Speedster running bioethanol. Cones are probably slightly quicker & more efficient but I kind of like the way it all packs neatly in the pot with space for my other bits & bobs - I still haven’t tried the Epicurean Esbit yet.

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edh

Thru Hiker
The Epicurean works well for me, about four months continual use; I'm going back to it after a brief flirtation with meths.
 
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