New Trekking Poles needed Advise please

Discussion in 'Gear Chat' started by FOX160, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    Some how snapped one of my trekking poles today, so need your help on some new ones, only thing is they need to be fully adjustable to accommodate to support both the Swiftline + Cirriform shelters. Carbon fibre would be a plus.
    Adjustable lengths need to cover the following sizes.

    74cm
    109cm
    125cm
    132cm

    Thank you
  2. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

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  3. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    ^^^ agree 100%. I had leki sherpas which are great and bomb proof but quite heavy, fizan compact 3s (two pairs) that broke, and a set of the komperdells @Shewie suggest in the 120cm length which were a great balance of light and strong with the aluminium (titanal, I assume it's some type of aluminium/titanium compound) bottom section. I sold them and the Lekis to buy the longer version of the komperdell C3 carbon.
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  4. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Those Kompardells sound good!
    Also perhaps worthy of consideration-Locus Gear CP3s? Any good? https://locusgear.com/items/cp3/?lang=en (FYI not an affiliate link )
    Straight out of Japan, exceptionally light 135 gms each and tough in my experience. For me they are a veritable bargain. About 95 quid delivered for two but you can buy singles and the post was only three days to Oz! They also have spare pieces available and deal in English.
    I placed a Fizan pole Massdrop aluminium (145 grams) and a CP3 CF (135gms) between two stools and pressed down to test the 'give'. The CP3s were much more resistant-I would say about twice at a guess? Sold the Fizans.
    Alpinist colleague with vast experience up high 2000m+ regularly, uses -BD Alpine Carbon Cork. I think these are just about the best (?) at least in his evaluation but outlay cost probably quite high:banghead: Good shopping.
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  5. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Are those the exact same pair that you have? The Komperdell C3s have gone through a number of versions. I have an earlier version (powerlock 2.0), which have served me well for a number of years. My wife has a later version (powerlock 3.0), which is the same as a nuber of people got a great price from Amazon. These look like a newer version with an extended handle.
    Surprisingly, a quick google search and the cheapest price I can find for them is here in Turkey!
    The Locus CP3s are great, very light for their strength, but not as strong as the Komperdells - I've managed to break the Locus but not the Komperdells. I like the titanal lower section ("85% aluminium with smaller amounts of zinc, magnesium, and copper. Despite the deceiving name, titanium is not among the list of periodic ingredients") and always choose them over the Locus if there's going to be much scree.
  6. DuneElliot

    DuneElliot Section Hiker

    Absolutely love my Black Diamond Ergo Cork poles...and they've worked with my trekking pole shelters just fine despite the slightly angle to the hand grip
  7. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    No mine are the older version too William but I couldn’t find a link when I did a quick search.
  8. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    Another vote for Leki Sherpas, particularly for larger and/or clumsier folk. Formidable as tent support too. There are some things I've learnt (the hard way) not to compromise on, and these are one of them. Car tyres are another (for not dissimilar reasons). I've had too many failures with flimsier/carbon/twistlock poles.
  9. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Depends on the person using them.

    I'm small lightweight (~55KGs) and have had Locus gear CP3's for several years now - hold the tent up (- I always double pole, why wouldn't you ?) and covered some very "rough ground" in them. - no problems.
    I wouldn't let my large heavy bumbling hubby anywhere near them. He has heavyweight Leki Super-LMakalu / Sherpa XL's.

    Horses for courses.
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  10. island

    island Summit Camper

    @cathyjc interesting... I have been looking at LG CP3 vs Black Diamond Alpine ergo Cork.

    There's a big weight difference so naturally I'm leaning towards the CP3.

    However, I'm 6'2" / 90kg and I suspect I'd be better with the more robust BD Alpine Ergo Cork poles. I'm careful with gear but realistic. Do you think the CP3's would be too fragile for someone like me?
  11. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I also have BD Alpine Carbon Corks - excellent. I've had them longer and I'd say "yes, they are distinctly more robust" than the CP3's. I lent them to hubby and for the short time he used them they survived :whistling:.
    It's not about being carefull - anyone can get tripped up by an unexpected obstacle.

    At nearly twice my weight perhaps playing it safe with the heavier poles might be wise. In the end you have to listen to all the advice and work out what is right for you.
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  12. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    For what it's worth I am 87 kgs 179 cms and use the LGCP3s. Not had a problem. If you could afford to try them I would say do it. By afford I mean both economy and use wise. If they suit your needs. I use them over loose rocky earth, low mountainous terrain.
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  13. DuneElliot

    DuneElliot Section Hiker

    I loaned mine to a friend about your size for the Wind River High Route which is brutal route. He beat the hell out of them but they survived...he kept them and bought me another pair. I'd say they held up to some serious abuse and came out smiling.
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  14. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I should add to my statement above that I have broken LG CP3s twice by falling and landing with my hand on them when they were horizontal, not by normal use. I do think that the Komperdells would have survived but then they do weigh more.
    One good thing about the LGs is that you can buy replacement sections.
  15. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I'm used to the alpkit carbons @137g but they are fragile and the twistloc is a weak spot. Doubled up they've kept my tramplite up in some reasonably bad weather. I also have the komperdells, but I'm so used to the alpkit that they feel like using scaffolding tubes . Tend to just take one for winter shelter support.
    Think I'd recommend the c3 for those not biased by using toothpicks first.
  16. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    I see that there's recommendations for carbon poles, thing is, I've heard that when they break, it's a total failure. I use my poles to keep the tent up, as well as support, so was wondering whether the perception that carbon was a no no in terms of reliability under duress still held? FWIW I have a pair of Black Diamond Trail flicklocks and wish they were lighter...
  17. Frank

    Frank Backpacker

    I used a pair of Fizan compacts last year. Lightweight and comfortable and stiffer and less noisy than the shock absorbing ones I used before.
    They held up to my 95 kg abuse quite well, but not when i sat on one of the them. Even though it was jus a slight bend over a rock, that pole snapped in two as I tried to fix it. So I think total failure is quite possible also with aluminum poles, at least the lightweight ones.
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  18. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Yes, my wife snapped a Fizan Compact too when it jammed in a rock, but they use a different alloy from most aluminium poles so it may not apply to all aluminium poles.
    I can't imagine the strain on a pole when used to support a shelter could be enough to break it, or did you mean that if you broke it while walking you couldn't use it for the shelter? The heavier carbon poles are very strong IME.
  19. Mox

    Mox Backpacker

    Yes, I mean that the pole would be unusable as shelter support in the event of failure. Do you have any names for the heavier carbon poles?
  20. island

    island Summit Camper

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  21. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    As said above, I really rate the Komperdell C3s. The lower section is supposedly the most vulnerable with carbon fibre ad scratches and nicks from stones can weaken it; these have an aluminium lower section then the two carbon upper sections feel very substantial.
    Editted to add: Bergzeit often has good reductions on Komperdell poles and also has some own brand models made for them by Komperdell.
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  22. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    Thank you all for your valuable input and experiences, I’ve placed a request on the Komperdell C3 Carbon Pro poles from Massdrop but can’t find them for sale but only the compact version elsewhere.
    The design fits to where mine had broken whilst getting the pole caught into the floor that lead to me losing my balance and my knee and body weight falling against the pole.
  23. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

  24. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    £68.73 at Bergzeit is the cheapest I've seen them at recently. This is Bergzeit branded with an extended handle.
  25. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Damn, didn't know about them. I paid £82 last month :(

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