Pyrenees 2019

Discussion in 'Places & Planning' started by Mox, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    1991 I think.....very out of date...…….remember the last time I was looking for some info Veron suggested in one passage "ask at the bar if you can sleep in the hay loft".
    I think them days have passed.

    Be patient……...bet you don't shout at the kale to grow faster ;)
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  2. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    Second edition (2009), reprinted in 2016 "with updates."

    To be honest, I found whiteburns guide more useful and referred to it more frequently last year.
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  3. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    Still plenty of lofts in barns to sleep in if you know where to look - there's even one here - you've only got to ask - us farmers aren't quite as dreadful as some would paint em..

    And of course i don't shout - how very rude would that be ?? - i have far nicerer methods of persuasion... :angelic:

    Naturally I'm being patient - extremely - and anyhow - even if it doesn't get done so soon - as i said the original is still a marvellous piece of work.
    Perfectly adequate really ..

    Yes same edition here i think, and totally more big love :inlove: for Mr Whiteburns HRP guide
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  4. island

    island Summit Camper

    @Whiteburn great guide and route, had a look at the kml file on Google Earth and looked at the areas that I know with your guide. Fantastic!
  5. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    It took me quite a time to track down bus timetables for Andorra, Rome2Rio not a lot of help, I
    finally found at INTERURBANA ANDORRA it's even in English :)
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  6. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    :thumbsup:

    I wouldn't trust Rome2Rio for bus information.

    They'll often claim there isn't one, when there is.
    And possibly vice a versa

    I guess part of the trouble is that bus timetables get so messed about so frequently.
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  7. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Often found the best info if stuck is the local tourist office......plenty scattered across the Pyrenees.
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  8. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    Oh for sure once you're there then it's fine.

    And the bus timetables, are also handily displayed at the train stations.

    It's almost like they're trying to be helpful.

    I meant more from a preplanning pov in general.

    If preplanning is your thing.
  9. JimH

    JimH Ultralighter

    Another shout for not trusting Rome2Rio on buses, most French & Spanish bus timetables are easy to find online, and pretty easy to navigate with some language skills.
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  10. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Does anyone have a copy of Scott Goodall’s guide to the Chemin de la Liberte that I could borrow?

    The crossing through the Ariege? It seems to be out of print.
  11. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    You probably have but did you email the Chemin de la Liberte association (contact@chemindelaliberte.fr) to see if they still have some for sale?
  12. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    I have thanks balagan but given it’s selling on amazon for over £100 I’m not optimistic. Have you walked it or know anyone who has?

    I’m restarting the gr10 at bagneres de luchon this year but thought I’d detour to saint girons to walk this path and then get back to the gr10 afterwards.
  13. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Haven't walked any of it. As a matter of fact, I hadn't heard of it until today. The publisher (Inchmere Design – email marie@inchmere.co.uk) might be worth trying as I've found that small publishers often have a few copies of long out-of-print books. Amazon prices don't mean anything, it's usually someone imagining a rare book is highly sought-after and putting a silly price tag on it.
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  14. island

    island Summit Camper

    @Clare you might get lucky on alibris or abe books. I've found out of print books there before.
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  15. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    I hadn’t heard of it either but I met some people in bagneres last summer who had just done it. I think Walter Benjamin crossed there. I don’t really need the book, there’s ‘cruel crossing’ by Edward stourton for history and maps for the rest. It would just be nice to have a look.

    I’ll write to the publisher tomorrow.
  16. island

    island Summit Camper

    I just saw an email update from Peter Forrest (hrpguide) who mentioned that the supermarket at Candanchu was closed meaning much more limited food options between Lescun and Gavarnie.

    Anyone got any tips for food for that section?

    Rely on refuges or send a resupply box to Lescun?
  17. tallest of pauls

    tallest of pauls Ultralighter

    You'll get all the food you need in the shop in Lescun. It's good to shop local and keep these places open. Not preaching just saying.:)
  18. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Just carry sufficient food for the section (5 or 6 days) as @tallest of pauls says Lescun has a good supermarket.
    Not a big problem so long as you don't walk very slowly...……..refuges could be used as a backup.
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  19. Stuart

    Stuart Ultralighter

    I have found Rome2Rio very good to identify whether bus routes exist and which companies run the buses. You can then look up timetables.

    Local people were an extremely unreliable source of info about buses on my Spanish GR1 trip in April... "No there's no bus today, it's a holiday, it's Easter already, you'll have to take a taxi or hitch". Cue my walking out of town and seeing bus sailing past 20 minutes later but then to my amazement the driver stopping anyway and letting me on.
  20. Stuart

    Stuart Ultralighter

    Refuge Arlet did meals when we passed there a few years back.
  21. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    One of the best lunches I've had was at the Refuge Wallon, described as chilli con carne turned out to be a mountain of 'hash'; sausage, chorizo, various beans with potatoes...…. not very pretty but wonderful trail food :):)
  22. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    I’ve found this pretty common anywhere outside big cities where sensibility (sometimes) prevails. Even in the UK, busses have slowed down/stopped when I’ve been hitching to check if I wanted to get on (and I’ve occasionally flagged busses this way and never had a driver not stop).
  23. JimH

    JimH Ultralighter

    There's good reasons for buses in big cities to keep going, generally the stops are close together and there's another bus on the same route just a couple of mins behind. Otherwise you easily run into the "wait 10 mins for a bus then 3 turn up together" scenario.
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  24. tallest of pauls

    tallest of pauls Ultralighter

    So whos going when?

    I've sold my house and i'm moving out on 19th of July . My mate Jim who I meet on the HRP 5 years ago is doing it again this year and leaving on the 23rd, so if it all goes to plan i'll be joining him! :D

    We may bung more GR11 in this time , over to spain and Ordesa and follow it for 7- 10 days skipping Portillion before rejoining somewhere afterwards. also instead of canigou stay on the frontier ridge in spain.
  25. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    I’m leaving on 2 August and will probably start walking around 4th August from Luchon. As in an earlier post I might cross to Spain on the Chemin de liberte and then decide what next. Got over a month out there.

    Are you moving to France?

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