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Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Lempo, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

  2. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Thé xlite yellow now comes in regular wide size. 438g. 183 x 64
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  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Keep your arms warmer, I generally end up sleeping like Dracula to keep them from falling off the 50cm wide pad.
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  4. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    I tuck my hands into my waist band of my leggings when on my back on my 50cm Xtherm.
  5. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

    i like handcuffs
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  6. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    we know, Charlie, you keep telling us.
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  7. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Ultralight ones? Dual use?
  8. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

    Sometimes, its not about the weight, comfort counts
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  9. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Zipties
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  10. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

  11. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    He's a fluffy handcuff kinda person. Aberdonian or not.
  12. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    I found a Exped Flexmat Plus XS waiting at home for me today.

    Ever since my Synmat HL failed on me night 1 in the Pyrenees last September, I have been using 6 sections of a Z-Lite with a torso length Thinlite on top of that. It works well, is light (Z-Lite is 178 grams & Thinlite 55 grams) and is comfortable; at least for me.

    However, I was interested in the Flexmat since it promises (almost) twice the thickness; 3,8 cm to be exact. Thermarest clocks in at 2 cm.

    I just did a quick measure and the Flexmat XS weighs in at 287 grams, which is lighter then what Exped promises (315 grams) and happens to be exactly the same weight as the Z-Lite Short.

    To be fair; the Z-Lite short is 130 cm and the Exped 120 cm.

    The Z-Lite short is 10 panels and the Flexmat counts 8. One panel of the Z-Lite is 13 cm in width, while the Exped is 15 cm.

    It gets more interesting if you'd decide to cut it down. For my preferred torso length, I'd need to cut 5 sections of the Exped for a total length of 75 cm. This is fairly similar to my Z-Lite (78 cm).

    What I thought to be interesting is the weight; although it's almost twice as thick, the weight for a similar length is exactly the same (179 grams).

    Packed size is almost the same. This comes down to the fact that my Z-Lite uses 6 pieces & the Flexmat 5 but it is still interesting (again due to the added thickness).

    I suppose the foam on the Exped might not be as resilient as the Z-Lite although it felt very firm when laying on top of it. Almost too firm, actually; I hope it breaks in a bit more. I suppose it will, but the 3 mm of Thinlite foam helps to reduce the feeling of laying on top of firm pins.

    I didn't take any pictures but I'm glad to take a few if some people would be interested.

    Edit for typo's.
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  13. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I researched that mat a bit out of curiosity. The users said it would take 7-14 nights to break it in to make it comfortable apparently. I guess based on this, you wanna have a lie on it while watching telly, reading a book etc...
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  14. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    I'll just use that as an excuse to get out more. ;)

    I'm interested to see how the thickness will hold up over time. I'm planning on using this Flexmat on the GR5 so that should be enough time to find out.
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  15. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    It will be interesting to hear how you get on with it, because it'd be a really nice quick setup at the end of a long day just to lay it out without having to deal with pumping up a mat.
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  16. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    If it's not too much trouble Arne I wouldn't mind a couple of pics. Especially the packed size, but inside the sack-do you have something (near or) at 30L? That's what has always put me off the thick CCF mats and carrying on the outside is not an option for me. My Onda cut to 140 cms gave me a bruised hip but vanished in my 30L rucksack. Ta
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  17. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Looking forward to your experience with it Arne. From reviews... Most seem to say it needs a couple of weeks break in period.. Others (probably endorsed) say its the best thing since sliced bread...
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  18. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    I’ll make do tonight. I haven’t cut it up yet so it’ll be 8 panels inside a 31L pack.
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  19. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Ta Arne.
  20. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    Some pictures:

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    3.8 cm. I suspect this will lessen with use.

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    The difference with a (albeit well used) Z-Lite is remarkable.

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    The packed size (only when being squished down with a glass bowl off course) in packed size for a similar length is pretty similar. The Exped requires 5 panels & the Z-Lite 6 for a torso pad.

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    As requested by @Cranston ; the Flexmat (8 panels) inside a 31L pack. I'd never do this because it takes up way too much space. Packing it like a burrito simply didn't work because of the thickness.
    Bonus points for flashy Sunday socks.

    Also worth mentioning that the Exped came in a big carton box without any plastic.

    Then again, CCF is pretty much plastic.

    If anyone wants to see something different (... Flexmat related obviously) don't hesitate to ask.
  21. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Thanks very much Arne. Looks a comfy beast. Very tempting.
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  22. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Beefy!
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  23. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    Absolutely. The same thickness as my good old Thermarest Prolite Plus (my first 'UL' pad!). I can't remember ever having a bad night on that pad.
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  24. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Have you had a chance to try it out?
  25. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    Sadly not. Looks like it might still be a while.

    I am headed to the mountains in a few weeks but since I’m doing the car camping thing with my GF & dog my pad will be a thick, wide and posh one!
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