Solo - ish tent for Scottish Highlands

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by MountainBuddha, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. MountainBuddha

    MountainBuddha Day Walker


    I am in desperate need for a tent for Scottish Highlands. I have looked at Hilleberg enan for spring through autumn, and akto for the winter. And not sure what else would be up for the high-wind conditions we have here.

    Does anyone have any thoughts?

    I have pacer poles, which are great, but due to their funny handles, may not be great for supporting a shelter. Also, as I sometimes base camp, i like to take poles with me.

    I wouldn't mind being able to sit up and meditate, so a high tent would be good. Even a relatively 1 1/2 man tent would be good, too.

    A small footprint, and one that can take the wind if I decide to camp high.

    I live in Scotland, and need some tents pretty quickly. Any advice would be great.
  2. MountainBuddha

    MountainBuddha Day Walker

  3. OwenM

    OwenM Section Hiker

    I also live in Scotland, I use a Trekkertent Phreeranger lots of room high enough for me to sit up in, I'm 5' 10". Only trouble is he makes them to order and there take ages to make, I think the lead time is around 10 weeks.
  4. Michael_x

    Michael_x Section Hiker

    Trekkertent Saor here. Would definitely suggest you look at the Trekkertent range but as @OwenM says there is a significant lead time.
  5. Nigelp

    Nigelp Ultralighter

    Terranova Southern Cross one or two.
  6. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Any mid will do
    MLD, Locus gear, HMG
    If you use it with a Dual Trekking Pole Extension adaptor (basically a large hinge between the 2 poles) it gives great head space in the centre

    Bit of a ball ache setting up a inner in a mid, but with the DTPE plenty of headroom

    The old fave of many here, MLD Trailstar, apparently great in high winds

    Tarptent Straosphire, Scarp both decent in high winds

    Really depends on the weight you want to carry and the price

    Hilleberg's are bloody heavy, expensive and some models are condensation traps i've read

    Have a Trekkertent edge, i wouldn't buy another Trekkertent, really poor design for me
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2020
  7. Robert P

    Robert P Ultralighter

    I have done most of my wild camping in Scotland and used Pacerpoles with all my trekking pole tents. Many such tents have grommets for the pole tips, the poles being used upside down, which works fine with Pacerpoles. Some tents (eg MLD Solomid) work fine with the Pacerpole handle-up, but others not so (the Tramplite, for example), so I've made an adaptor than fits over the pole tip and enables me to use the poles upside down without damaging the tent. Of the readily available options the MLD Solomid and Duomid might fit the bill, though headroom is limited at the head and foot ends; the Dan Durston X-Mid has excellent headroom, but not quite as stormworthy (though I happily pitch it on mountain summits in strong wind).
  8. Patrick

    Patrick Trail Blazer

    Luxe Hexpeak series is well liked on here. Generally seems to hold up to wind well, and even the smallest (F4) has good sitting headroom towards the centre. If you didn't want to use trekking poles you'd need to buy a collapsible aluminium pole for the centre, but that needn't add a great deal of weight.
  9. Padstowe

    Padstowe Thru Hiker

    I don't use pacer poles but with the pole assisted shelters I use I tend to have tips up in the inside with the little rubber stopper for road walking (can't think what they're called) on so the tip is covered.
  10. Gordon

    Gordon Trail Blazer

    A Dan Durston X-Mid may fit your requirements?

    I'll be using mine on TGOC this year.

    Only took 6 days to get here too.

    The Terra Nova Southern Cross 1 ( or 2 ) is a solid 4 season tent, but is that much heavier - and more expensive.
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2020
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  11. MountainBuddha

    MountainBuddha Day Walker

    Cheers everyone

    A lot of food for thought.

    I have also looked at a rather expensive single walled tent....

    Not sure how good it is, but tons of room for one person.

    Could also use it for bike touring.

    Will check out all your suggestions.

    Thank you again.
  12. MountainBuddha

    MountainBuddha Day Walker

    Sounds excellent...

    Will definitely look into these..

    I just wander, how the ergonic handles can be used upside down, or even to support a tent...

    Do you have photos of your adaptor?

    I am acutally thinking of

    Thinking of spending months in hills and this might be a nice home due to room. However, the price is astronomical and it would take a massive chunk out of my budget.

    Heard anything about this tent?

    Also, when you base camp, and leave your tent, do you then hike up hills without poles?
  13. Diddi

    Diddi Thru Hiker

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  14. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

  15. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    Luxe Hexpeak V4A - to second @Diddi 's suggestion. I'd have thought it worthy of serious consideration for your needs - I think pacer poles can be made to work as the support without too much difficulty.
    I've used mine to the exclusion of any other shelter for the last 4 years and I'm very pleased.
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  16. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    Some of these tents can be a bit flappy in high wind so you might want to consider that too. An extra bit of weight against knowing it will stand up on a Scottish mountain is worth considering.
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  17. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    A good night's worry free sleep is important for multi-day outings..IMO
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  18. Mark James

    Mark James Backpacker

    I use Pacerpoles with my Tarptent Stratospire, upside down with the tips in the brass eyelets attached to the flysheet and handles on the ground. Works perfectly, doesn't stress the flysheet, and they show no sign of wanting to fall over due to the handle shape. No issues at all - it just works!
  19. Ami

    Ami Trekker

    Did anyone use Pacerpoles (upside down) with Dan Durston X-mid in stormy conditions? I wonder how stable is that set-up?
  20. Robert P

    Robert P Ultralighter

    Presuming you mean with the tips in the grommets, yes I've done that and it is rock solid in strong winds, as long as you use the apex tie outs. The large fabric panels may flap a little, but the poles didn't move. I posted a video a while back showing this (tent is not orientated in the optimum way for the prevailing wind, but the direction had shifted overnight).
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  21. Ami

    Ami Trekker

    Robert, many thanks!
  22. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    You'll be needing a tent big enough to hang clothes up to dry inside if you're spending that long away. I'd also recommend a teepee shaped tent like the Luxe Hex Peak. For Scottish wind I'd take the hit of carrying a fit for purpose pole to support it with so I could take my walking poles on a day hike while leaving the tent up.

    One more thought: If you spend three months camping, a £300 tent is less than £3/night, and you still own it for future trips. Not so bad really.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2020
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  23. The Cumbrian

    The Cumbrian Ultralighter

    20191221_151242.jpg I've been using a Big Sky Chinook 2 person as my winter tent. It's freestanding, has two porches and is palatial for one. I don't like to be cramped up in a one person tent on long winter nights. With extended guylines and a full complement of long, strong winter pegs (including two spares) it comes in at 2.25kg. Unfortunately, I haven't had it out in anything more than a strong breeze yet, but it was solid in that and it gets great reviews.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2020
  24. Nigelp

    Nigelp Ultralighter

    The southern cross has zero flap and would be a proper 4 season Scottish winter tent. It is weighty but pitches very easily and can be done so with gloves on.
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  25. Dr Zarkov

    Dr Zarkov Backpacker

    I have the Sigma S10 (version 2 with double gromits for the main poles) and have been on several trips to Scotland and survived! Its a great tent. The S15 is the newer slightly bigger and more expensive version but from looking at the specs not much of a difference. I have added LL 3's and MLD line to all the guy points which has increased the weight slightly. If you do buy one definately swap out the pegs and use all the guying points. I also use a tyvek ground sheet with it (as I do with all my tents) and use Easton pegs which pushes the weight up to just under 1.5 kilos. It is a great winter tent with lots of headroom. I am 5ft 11 and can kneel up on a thermarest xtherm and still not touch the roof. This also makes getting changed much easier than say the southern cross 1. The pole sleeves are a bit sticky when the poles are wet or damp but if you go slow and thread them gently its fine. I believe the S15 uses a better material for this purpose. I can get all my winter gear and camera gear in with no problems and its a nice (if a bit dark) place to be when the weather is rubbish. Its not perfect of course. The inner door (there is no actual inner) does not open across the full length only half way and the zip is only 1 way which is not amazing when venting but simple and good enough. The porch flap is a wee bit high but can be remedied with some imagination. I use my empty rucksack and boots to lessen any wind coming underneath. Speaking of wind with all the guys taught its never been an issue but I've only seen gusts of 40/50 or so. The rather flat side opposite the door does have a pegging point to reduce flapping and flatness and I have never had an issue with this. The xtec fabric does what it claims other than when its proper cold and then ice will block the pores and it can then get a little bit drippy when the ice melts. Small price to pay really as when its not frozen there is no condensation build up. I do consider it a bit heavy at 1.5 kilos but its strong and spacious and gives me peace of mind when the weather is ***** and 1.5 kilos for a winter capable tent is good. Hope this helps.
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