Tarptent Stratospire

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
In reality...
  1. Not so much the space as I don't need that - although it is nice.
  2. Stability factor in higher winds (I hope, but anecdotal reportage suggests same, as does the 2s performance).
  3. A light 'easy' winter tent
  4. Occasional use for two.

Thanks :).
I'd be interested in your impresssions as you get 'more familiar' with it, too. :thumbsup:;)
 

el manana

Thru Hiker
In reality...
  1. Not so much the space as I don't need that - although it is nice.
  2. Stability factor in higher winds (I hope, but anecdotal reportage suggests same, as does the 2s performance).
  3. A light 'easy' winter tent
  4. Occasional use for two.
Same here.
 
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WilliamC

Thru Hiker
Has anybody heard of greenline.de.com? It appears that they also resell tarptents. Of course, then you'd know exactly what you're paying but lose the excitement of waiting to see if you get lucky.
 

liamarchie

Ultralighter
Has anybody heard of greenline.de.com? It appears that they also resell tarptents. Of course, then you'd know exactly what you're paying but lose the excitement of waiting to see if you get lucky.
Came across them when looking to buy my SS1, though think my quick maths made them more expensive (understandably). Preferred to give tarptent the money directly since the tent i wanted was in stock, so lead time was the same regardless of where i bought it. Would be a good site if delivery time was critical though
 

edh

Thru Hiker
  • IME the supplied line slips in the linelocs when wet and under strain. I changed for 3mm.
OK. NOW I am convinced....after years of using pitchlock this finally happened Sat night.

JKMs Strat pitched door-side into wind looked like it was shedding wind better than mine oriented pitchlock to wind (he might be able to comment)??

Broken Delrin (?) ring where inner attached - about the fifth or sixth use - not impressed!
 

Shewie

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They looked to be very storm worthy Ed, hardly budging whereas my Trailstar would get flattened in the heavier gusts.
 
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cathyjc

Thru Hiker
OK. NOW I am convinced....after years of using pitchlock this finally happened Sat night.

JKMs Strat pitched door-side into wind looked like it was shedding wind better than mine oriented pitchlock to wind (he might be able to comment)??

Broken Delrin (?) ring where inner attached - about the fifth or sixth use - not impressed!

Pic please :).
Interested as I own a couple of tents with same design.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
I really do like the Strat.

I'm going to agree with Henry that door on is less of a cross sectional area to catch wind.

But, the door side peg points with shockcord and delrin seem a weak link compared to a decent guy attached to ta pitchlok.

I am adding mid hem peg points to mine.
 

FOX160

Thru Hiker
Found this on setting up in windy weather on Nielsen Browns website
http://www.nielsenbrownoutdoors.com/2014/09/what-works-for-me-shelters.html

Similarly the Stratospire is also fast to pitch, and with a little practice it probably takes me about 3 or 4 minutes. I do not use Henry’s suggested method for erecting the Stratospire, instead I prefer to peg out the doors at both ends to form a rectangle and then insert the poles at each end before pulling out the pitchlocs, and I found this method especially effective in windy conditions.

Hope this helps : )
 

gixer

Thru Hiker
Not had the the delrin loop fail, but the webbing for one of the door tieouts is torn on mine.
 

edh

Thru Hiker
Notch under significant wind pressure; picked up around 8pm and blew hard all night.
Built a useless little wall, weighed down pegs ( care taken not to compromise lines). Thought it might fail it was that brutal.
Very noisy.
Earplugs in and slept pretty well all considered.
Better performance than I expected as wind was 3/4 on to the long side walls.
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tom

Thru Hiker
@edh looks good! Notch is surprisingly robust - I had to peg the windward strut down once this summer and fiddle a small carabine to take the strain of the zip (the TT plastic door clip is quite useless) but it all held up....
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Looks a good antidote to Christmas preps Ed.

I do like the Notch. Need to use it more next year.

I find that unless it's windy, I get dripped on the face by condensation from it's flattish roof panel. It's happened most times I've used it. Usually right in the eye, waking me up in the early hours.:hungover: Maybe it's because I'm a relatively tall back sleeper. My breath reaches a low part of the shelter roof easily and condenses.

I'd planned to make another inner, but might just mod one end of the roof to be solid to catch the drips.

I've not used it in summer though.

And yes, the door clips are rubbish - like something from a cheap Christmas cracker. Just don't work on mine. Ping open with a hard stare. I've put a quick release lineloc3 with guy on each unguyed door. That way any door can be the open one.

Also added another short line to the windward pitchlok and use my blizzard stakepootrowel for extra security.
 
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tom

Thru Hiker
Not had that condensation problem with the Notch and got these from zpacks

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which will also allow door flexibility but not gotten around yet to fixing some d-rings to the doors... (traveling with Hexamid presently)
 

FOX160

Thru Hiker
Why is their no tie outs to stake the middle of the vestibule’s when the weather turns.
see that here on the DW
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Why is their no tie outs to stake the middle of the vestibule’s when the weather turns.
see that here on the DW

The Moment DW does have peg points in the centre of each of the 4 vestibule panels, though you have to add your own shockcord.

I've used one in similarly high winds. Really, if pegging is sensible, and supplemented for hard winds, IMO the weakest point is the pole.

Thats a years old video of an original (quite obviously)single wall Moment which was second hand when he got it.

The DW is different in several upgraded ways.

A lady hiker ( can't recall her name sadly) has done a 1000 mile hike across the Alaskan Brooks range using a Moment DW.
 

FOX160

Thru Hiker
Thanks for the correction Mole, so what is your preference the Notch or the DW.
But I see you have eyes for the Strat1.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Dunno really. So far I preferred being inside the Moment to the Notch as there's more width, and more volume in the porches and the inner is mostly solid fabric, so no drips.
But the Notch moves less in the wind, so feels a little more secure, though it's more draughty.
Not a lot in it really.

I'm highly unlikely to buy a Stratospire 1 whilst our Scarp1 is still in one piece.
 
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