Trail shoes when it's wet, I just don't 'get' it.

Same here. Mine have been to Scotland and the Lakes and always performed well.

i just checked them actually they are Kanadia GTX not terrex but they work well. Actually more comfortable than my terrex agravic too.

Love my 295 for summer, looks like they are no longer available. The 305 seem much better made and can be made very comfy but not quite as airy

Yes, my 295s have died and I now have a pair of 305s. They seem more like a conventional trainer shape and I prefer the last for my feet. But as you say, they are less airy. They seem more comfortable walking on hard ground - but that might be because my 295s had compressed quite a lot

Not sure about no socks, I'm pretty certain that would be blister central for me. It's only recently I've moved from wearing wellies full time about the farm. I had no idea it rained so much in Devon, even my folks, who've recently spent 3 months in a caravan at our place after selling their home in Ireland complained about how much it rained.

Dexshellers....

How hot do they get trogging along at this time of year?

Super toasty....bearable?

Just got some of the bamboo one's

HeftyBoots (TM)

I have the dexshell super flex, for the pretty candy stripes. More comfy and thinner and flexible than sealskins but I take them off as soon as it stops ****ing down as too hot for me.

Thanks Clare. I think mine are lighter.

They are so much more comfy than the Sealskins of yesteryear.

Mine are candy striped... grey and black

As in less warm....thickness--wise

I know; I'll shut up

I'm not sure I'd take trail runners for a wet dog walk. To my mind, there are 2 major advantages in trail runners - comfort and drying time. Both are not very relevant for day walks (through I wear my older low sole profile Brooks cascadias for almost anything).

Like others here, I could not do big mile days in boots without injury but even more so, alpine decents!!! I sometimes walk down 2000m altitude or more on hard rock and scree in a single day - I couldn't walk for 3 days if I did that in boots (as I painfully remember many years ago)

Every shoe will get wet sooner or later so drying time is crucial for any multiday hikes. Goretex boots take 2 days to dry - useless for longer hikes. My Brooks dry in 3 hours while walking or overnight but that varies from shoe to shoe - e.g. Spreedcross take a lot longer to dry.

Need I repeat that trail runners shouldn't be used with heavy loads? I've seen some awful foot damage when people do - wet or dry...

Dexshell socks with speedcross 4 and crampons yesterday in 1m + snow... Dry and warm feet

thickness...

What crampons are they?

Kahtoola Ali I reckon

@Enzo Kahtoola indeed but steel 628g (I wouldn't trust alu @edh - known to bend on ice). The ruta locura instep crampons perform really well by the way - will post a review when I'm back...

Dexshells look good but then you need some way of stopping water getting in the top. Until they come up with the equivalent of Hydrostop they don't seem very useful.

I get about 15 miles before wp socks cause blisters. Perhaps for me best used like a wp jacket and only worn when needed?

Dex shells are comfy for me, and I have quite sensitive feet.. Mine are thick-ish, but make trailrunners in occasionally soggy Scotland very bearable - warming to colder toes.

Oooo, but I had no idea you could get stripey ones too though @Clare
You're turning me into a proper shopaholic

Short of seamsealing* the tops of your socks to your legs I don't see how they could get much more waterproof..

*Doubtless someone has tried, and posted an U toob vid, documenting the outcome...
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Hi Fellow shopaholic, these are mine, but Ed's (even lighter ones) look good, in pink and black stripe.
http://www.outdoorgb.com/p/DexShell_Ultra_Flex_Waterproof_Socks/?utm_source=froogle&utm_med

Dunno, it seems simple to stop water coming in over the top, just wear waterproof trousers in the time honoured way. the socks just stop your feet pruning up from wetness through the shoe.

I haven't brought any waterproof socks this trip.
Roclite 295s. Brand spanking from the bottom drawer.
New superfeet insoles too. And, for the first time in many years, new merino blend socks.
Spoiing myself.

For sure, that's my complex methodology too.. Maybe we should start an excruciatingly detailed thread on how all that works

And, yes @edh is well known for rocking a dainty sock... In the vanguard of broadening the acceptable man-style parameters on the hill

Not an easy task in somewhat sartorially conservative Blighty

This thread coincided with the arrival chez moi of a pair of trail shoes since I had decided to see what, if anything, I was missing, so I`ve been following the comments with interest. Wet or dry, trail shoes (Roclite 325) are not for me. Compared to my usual footwear (Scarpa Terra), the Roclites are flimsy, floppy and unstable and I can feel every tiny lump and stone so I`m sticking with proper leather and Vibram, weight be damned.

Just received a pair of Altra Timps. Will give them a test drive at work this morning. Always excited when I can find a pair of shoes in my size in my first color choice. Like Christmas.

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And if you're not wearing waterproof trousers? i was thinking of running where you only put trousers on if it's really dire, or hiking when it's too warm for trousers. And it also assumes you can get trousers that are long enough (35" leg) to never leave a gap between trouser and sock. And longer socks are useless - no-one makes socks that come high enough on my calves to stay up for long.
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