Looking at the Berghaus Paclite Gore-Tex over trousers and the Montane Minimus pants. and looking for user recommendations of the plus and minus of the two.
Plus side of Paclite troos. Very Light & comfy Small pack space Full length zip Easy to clean Spend most of the time in your pack Elestic waste Zip fly No cons as I love mine.
I had a pair of minimus pants and found the breath-ability dreadful and they where pretty fragile. My wife has paclites which seem way better for venting and tougher.
+++++ for the Berghaus Paclite's. Not tried the Montane Trous but had the Minimus jacket......wasn't impressed with the breathability & the material proved quite fragile (not WP after a years' limited use).
As someone who has had no luck with and hates waterproof trousers I have been very impressed with the Montane Atomic pants.
Sent back a pair of minimus last month, to constricting around the nether regions, might be ok for smaller chaps . I dont do berghaus so no opinions on them. Also sent back a pair of OMM recently to. Was looking at the OR Hellium this morning but looks like I've missed the boat on the sales/stock Might just bite the bullet and go down the skirt route
Got the ladies Paclite, love the extra long zip, great for ventilation when it's chucking down but not cold, and easy to get on and off without struggling with muddy boots. Had them for years, so far they've been Pennine, Highland and Pyrenees proof, won't be changing them anytime soon despite the temptations of lighter models
I'm not the first person to take advice from on waterproof clothing, but the OMM Kamleika Pants are decent.
Berghaus Paclites every time. I’m not sure if the minimus pants are made from Pertex Shield like the jackets but I’ve heard lots of bad reports about that stuff.
Another vote for the Berghaus Paclites Gortex here. Had a pair of the minimus. Short zips, so hard to get on / off over boots. Not a wp as the Paclites and they ripped quite easily. Also got a pair of the Haglofs Lims. No zips so once there on they stay on. OK for summer use only.
I have never had the Minimus trousers but did have the jacket. It was good to begin with but developed holes v quickly. On the other hand, can only say good things about the Berghaus paclites, would pick them everytime.
Minimus over trousers after 1 day scrambling in the lakes Oddly enough even with all those holes my testicles still felt like "boil in a bag" Worst over trousers i've ever used Use a rain kilt/skirt now, great piece of kit
Poncho works well as well Especially when your hiking mates stop every 30mins for a 30mins break only 30mins after eating 2 breakfast's
No boil in the bag that day with the poncho, sideways rain meant my legs were drenched from just above the knees down though I don't think it's possible to have dry legs if it's raining all day Either my legs are wet through from sweat or rain Rain skirt keeps my thighs dry though which i've found keeps me warm below my thighs
If you have some cuben lying around, you can extend that poncho and do away with the rain skirt Excuse the poor quality - I had to crop the photo a lot.
Think the poncho would be a problem over here with stile/wire fences and certain terrain maybe a bit hazardous to climb over so I’ve gone for the https://www.outdoorgb.com/p/Berghaus_Paclite_Mens_Gore-Tex_Overtrousers/?s=10966&tc=7614&sc=10724 at a pretty good price. Thank you everyone for your help and advice.
Another vote for the Paclites. Good balance of light weight, full length zip and reasonable durability. The inner is a bit prone to abrasion, but I typically end up putting mine on over gaiters, which does a bit of damage to the lower part of the trousers (the bit protected by the gaiters anyway...)
I seem to recall that that was a lunch stop and you whinged about being cold the whole time. That handsome chap next to you looks nice and warm in his Rab Insulated Jacket. Nothing would have kept you dry that day, Greece in summer eh!
Built it. I cut a rectangular hole in the back of the poncho and taped on a Zpacks pack cover. It makes the poncho more aerodynamic (though the extra length takes some of that away again).
Hi. I too am on the look out for lightweight over trousers. The Berghaus Paclites seem to be very popular, but I was hoping to a find a more eco option than Gore-Tex...?
Lunch stop 30mins after eating 2 breakfasts malaka Started out decent weather wise When the dogs left us after having enough of the weather you know it's bad though