What sub £500 two person/2p tent for UK & EU backpacking?

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by wtrfall, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. wtrfall

    wtrfall Backpacker

    Hi all,

    What tent would you go for based on the following criteria?

    • Primarily used in England, Scotland and Wales with trips to mainland EU.
    • Fits two slender people comfortably, but light enough to be used by one.
    • For spring/summer/early autumn camping
    • As light as possible, definitely sub 1kg
    • Can survive in wind and rain.
    Is a Zpacks Duplex likely to be an issue in the changeable wind and rain over here? I won't be intending to go out in bad weather but it's sadly unavoidable isn't it! I'm aware that r/ultralight and other US forums generally have more sheltered and dedicated flatter camp spots, so looking for something that can cope with our climate.

    I'd be willing to spend up to/around £500 as I can sell my Durston X-mid 1p and Naturehike cloud up 2 for the right tent.

  2. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Welcome to the forum ;)
    That's a big budget and you will have no end of recommendations.
    Duomid XL ticks those boxes with spare weight and cash for an inner if needed.
  3. Jamess

    Jamess Ultralighter

    If you can wait for it and like the x-mid the 2p version is an obvious choice. The larger stratospire is similar if you can't wait.

    For 2p you probably want a door each but you could consider a supermid.

    If you are not heading anywhere too midgey and your trekking buddy is ok without an inner a trailstar is worth considering.
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  4. wtrfall

    wtrfall Backpacker

    Thanks! :)

    Inner definitely required, can't get by with just a tarp at the moment I'm afraid. Should've said we wanted an inner in the OP.

    If I wanted the Duomid XL to be a traditional tent, do I need to purchase both the inner and 'floor' together? Can't see how you would have an inner without a floor haha
  5. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    If I was looking at the Duplex I'd be thinking 0.74oz fly not the 0.51oz, a lot tougher for 50 grams or so extra weight.
    I'd interpret the $600 price tag as £600 by the time you get hit with import duty & VAT.
  6. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

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  7. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    How tall are you both.
  8. wtrfall

    wtrfall Backpacker

    I am about 5 ft 11 and my girlfriend is about 5 ft 5, we are both skinny people too.
  9. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    Second that. I have a Strat 1 and the space inside the inner is superb, add to that the two vestibules and entrances, tons of space. A Strat 2 is obviously bigger and would offer all the same comforts.

    Some friends have the Strat 2 and have used it all over for backpacking trips for many years now.

    IMO from my use of the Strat 1 and having seen a few duplex's in wind, I would say the Start would stand up to wind allot better than the duplex and certainly be less noisy so you'd get a better night's sleep.

    Being double skin you would have lessbto worry about in terms of condensation too compared to the duplex.
  10. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I've got the Strat 2 - its a great size....but has a great footprint.
    As a comfortable two-person double skin it is a winner.
  11. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

  12. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

  13. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    The inner is an inner tent... Floor, sides the full shebang. Mld Duomid xl isn't a tarp, it's a shelter in its own rigjy that can stand all weather. When it's fine, you use it on its own with just an additional ground cloth or individual bivi bags like the MLD superlight. You can sleep with one or both dorrs open or closed....
    Solid kit...
  14. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    If you can live without vestibules and with doors on the fly that will let rain onto the inner when opened (many people don't like this), then the Liteway Pyraomm Hut (also available as a separate fly and inner) looks interesting. I prefer two doors, both for ease of access with two people, but also for views.
    If you can't live with the above and you have a friend in the US, the Yama Mountain Gear Swiftline 2 is worth looking at.
    Caveat, I don't live or camp in the UK.
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  15. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    We have the Yama Mountain Gear Swiftline 2 and thoroughly recommend it
    but as @WilliamC points out Yama at present stopped selling internationally
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  16. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Another happy Strat. 2 owner here :thumbsup:. I prefer "solid' inner option for UK windy wet weather.
  17. DuneElliot

    DuneElliot Section Hiker

    I have owned a Duplex and loved it for it's simplicity. Traded it for the Stratospire Li which I don't love as much as it is harder to pack away, carry and more fiddly to put up. I miss the Duplex (which has held up great in some nasty Wyoming weather - can rival Scotland). The Li will be a back-up tent, or used for friends.

    I have now moved to a Trekkertent Drift which is basically a double-wall silpoly Duplex. I haven't tried it out yet, but I think it will be everything I am looking for.
  18. wtrfall

    wtrfall Backpacker

    Be interesting to hear how you get on with the Drift, it's a shame they don't offer a DCF version.

    So you had no issues with the Duplex in wind and rain? My main concern is the flapping around of the material creating lots of noise, and how it will stand up to changing wind directions. If the weather forecast is awful I often won't bother with a trip, but it's when it unexpectedly rolls in that's the problem. I just want something I can have confidence in and peace of mind that it'll survive the night.

    I've had a look at the Strat Li and it looks pretty good for my uses so I've added it to the list. Would you maybe be interested in selling?
  19. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    There is a one person DCF version of the Drift. Combined fly and inner though, IIRC. So it might be worth asking about a 2p (DCF roll widths might make it impossible)
  20. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I'm interested in hearing your experiences/review.
  21. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I have over 100 nights in a Duplex. The Duplex will withstand quite a bit of weather and might do for your purposes, except that it can be rather drafty. That seems to be the main stumbling block for most people in the UK.
    Search for @gixer's experiences with a Duplex in the UK.
  22. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

  23. Bob-W

    Bob-W Trail Blazer

    Is that sub 1kg including poles or are you using trekking poles?

    Looking at the Duplex it seems pretty narrow at 114cm. We've the Big Agnes Copper Spur (which doesn't fit your criteria) and it's 132cm wide at the head end and there's not a lot of spare width when you get two inflatable mats (Exped regular width) in there. Maybe consider the Triplex, only 80g heavier (and still way under your 1kg limit) but it's $700 so probably £700 by the time it gets here.

    The mesh inner does seem to be an American thing and makes it a bit limiting UK side but not insurmountable. The Copper Spur has solid lower panels with mesh upper and roof which does cut the drafts at sleeping height but still allows ventilation.

    When looking at tents we considered the Drift 2, just over your weight limit, as I've one of Mark's DCF tarps and he'll do custom work if you've specific requirements. I can't remember now why we decided against it.
  24. wtrfall

    wtrfall Backpacker

    I'm using trekking poles/discounting them from the weight.

    The drift 2 does look good
  25. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I'm in the hunt for comfy 1p (am 6'3.5") / doable 2p low weight tent (I have another thread about it) and was looking at Stealth2 and Drift2. Stealth2 has 140cm width, which would work for our (also) 65cm wide Exped pads whereas Drift is only 125cm. Maybe that's why you didn't go with Drift2.

    I wonder if a custom order Drift2 with a 140cm width and 10" tub / mesh inner would be possible...
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2019

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