Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Kit McCallion, Jun 24, 2014.
My ongoing quest to find a waterproof, breathable jacket that actually works continues .
My Rab Demand has been a great buy, I bought it in 2011 for £80 I think, 286g and it's still keeping the weather out. I found PacLite to be the most breathable of any of the shells until I tried the Demand in eVent, I think when it dies I'll try the Montane Minimus, gotta love that 146g weight and I bet it packs to nothing, I've heard good things about Pertex Shield.
I'm thinking about pertex options at the minute too. Of all the jackets I've tried I still think my ventile is my favourite, certainly the most comfortable. As I understand it pertex has very similar properties but at a fraction of the weight so it might be a goer. Think Adz was using a Minimus on our last outing which seemed to hold up well while my Keela failed miserably .
I've come to the conclusion that you either get damp from sweat or damp from rain, I'll take the rain I think .
I have an ME Morpheus and I love it. It's amazingly wind and waterproof although maybe a bit heavy at 440g... But you'll be dry in it no matter what gets thrown at you!
That reminds me, I should add ventile to the swear filter
Far too heavy for trek-lite
My Paramo Quito is favourite. I love the huge ventilation, quiteness, breathability and the abilty to wear it constantly in comfort.
Good sig line, do we have the facility for sig lines here?
I've a 15 year old gore-tex jacket, I'm off to weigh it as it could be comparable to ventile
Probably comparable then!
A couple of places have the minimus smocks for £70 ish at the mo
Rab Demand for me too.
, mine comes in at 825g which is currently my lightest waterproof
Plus 1 for the rab demand!! Wish I had got the xl though not xxl, but I guess it leaves room for growth lol.
What I would say kit is whatever you look for, try and buy 3 layer fabric, whether it's Event or goretex paclite, I could be wrong but I'm reading that 2.5 layer is no where near as durable, what do you hiking gurus think about that?
Haglofs Spire in beautiful dayglow yellow!! 380 gms, my previous was a Golite Phantom in paclite which was great too. That's just been washed and re proofed the pocket seams failed but I'm about to repair them as I still quite like it. For Autumn through winter for day walks it's Paramo all the way in the shape of a Velez Smock ditto what Pete says about Paramo. It's the only jacket I have ever been able to put on in the car park and wear it the whole day in a range of conditions and remain comfortable the whole time.
I may have just ordered a hyper light smock by accident having just sold a Ventile smock I bought from Tamarack.
Im not a great fan of the minimus tbh. I found it very sweaty tbh. Yes i do perspire somewhat when doing any physical activity but my Montane Atomic performs better. All in all my favourite waterproof has to be my Montane Superfly. Yes a little heavier other entries but never let me down and its comfy to wear.
Ventile in the woods, with wool underneath it, keeps me dry and warm in the worst of weather. Way too warm for doing anything active in all but the coldest conditions though.
Regatta isotex jacket (no idea of the model), usually over fleece, when it's a bit colder/wetter/windier and I need the extra protection. No idea what it weighs, it's not light, but it cost me (IIRC) £50 14 years ago, and it still works.
Karrimor windproof over a lowe alpine softshell as a lightweight option for the warmer months.
Buffalo mountain shirt when it gets cold.
So, it would appear that apart from the el cheapo fake gore-tex regatta I don't actually own a waterproof, interesting
For walking: Paramo velez in winter, marmot hyperlite in summer.
Running, I've had a Montane Atomic DT for years, but it's finally had it. Planning on replacing it with something more minimal than will stay packed almost all the time, and a softshell for winter - when I get home from a long run in the rain, I'm as wet inside the atomic from condensation as I'd be without a waterproof, so I'm hoping a softshell and my old paramo windproof will improve that situation. The Montane minimus is a likely candidate for the waterproof.
For everyday use, I have an old Regatta Isotec that's been worn, washed and reproofed for years and is still going strong.
I have a minimus smock which i use for running and, while i think it's great, it wouldn't be my first choice for walking. I've worn it over a thin baselayer in torrential rain and once it had wetted out (as I would expect any jacket to do in seriously heavy rain/wind) it felt cold/ clammy. I think the thinness of the fabric might have something to do with this. I also felt a slight cooling on my arms during really strong gust (could be because it's air permeable? not sure). None of this really troubles me while running (and i imagine that if i wore a fleece underneath I wouldn't have noticed anything) but I would prefer something a bit more substantial with a better hood, more pockets and more venting options if i was walking and expecting rain. I would take the minimus smock walking if i wasn't expecting rain/warm summer days where getting wet wouldn't cause me problems but if i was expecting to use and need a waterproof jacket then i would take my ME Firefox.
Interesting stuff .
Anyone got any experience with the Marmot Precip jacket?
Not sure if it's any good to Kit but found this on the go outdoors website - http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/marmot-precip-jacket-mens-waterproof-p203257
Rab Volt for me. breathes well and so far keeps me dry. got mine for £60 BNWT on fleabay. Do love my paramo windshirt too but it leaks in anything but light rain
Which paramo wind shirt have you got mate? I'm looking at getting another one either the marmot trail wind hoody or the montane trail star. Both weigh under 200g.
But I love the fit of paramo gear, they cater for the more fuller gentlemen
I agree with Evan about the minimus, unexpected summer shower its fine.
I'm wearing mine in my avatar pic, going up onto Kinder scout on a rainy day in October .
My mate bought the equivalent offering from RAB and its performance is the same.
They do dry quick though !
But not a 4 season coat.
I have the Montane minimus jacket and the chest zip pocket is a right ballache. It's been snagging really bad and some of the teeth are now broken so will be sending back for replacement.
Did you get one yet kit?
I got the marmot precip in the end. So far so good
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